Transcript: Can Your First AI Film Win a Festival?

Birthdays, and the true OGs who found the show without an invite

0:05 [music] [music] And we are back. We are live. And I haven't got the music ready, but here it comes. Intro music. Oh, there we go. I've even got my Mac ready. Let me get There we go. I know. It's a It's been a big rush for both of us. Happy birthday is the way that we need to start this show. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yeah, it's a it was a a good birthday. A nice chilled birthday with just the family. I was doing a bit of work. I'm going to buy myself a PlayStation 5 as a present getting ready for GTA. So, I've got friends who work for PlayStation as well, so hopefully they'll sort me out with some games as [music] well in the meantime.

0:55 Thank you, uh, uh, Bessa Studio. So, thank you very much for that. Um, so, uh, yeah. So, just doing that. Hey, Blacklight's finding us through X today. What the hell? I love that. Let's go. We're on X. Yes, I'm tuning through my X, but I Nobody ever finds me there. Black. Yeah. Yeah. Blacklight fans that way. Ah, thank you. Sorry, mate. Carry on. I didn't mean to interrupt you there. Yeah. Thank you everyone for the birthday shouts. But yeah, it's uh I don't know if anyone knows, but my birthday is on the 4th of October and Chris is on the 8th. So there's like 4 days between our birthdays. So um Chris is going to be uh celebrating in a couple of days time. Yep. Got cool any major plans?

1:41 Same as you, mate. I think when we get to our age, it's just like can we get some time off and some chill time, you know? Yeah. [laughter] Get the kids get the kids some like uh yeah, just having it having the time to go for a meal is just so rare these days that I'm like, can it be done? And yes, that's that's the plan anyway. At least if the kids don't get sick in the meantime or whatever, you know, that there is exactly that for me. My birthday is I'm just going to go here and I don't have to do anything because it's my birthday. It's like, can you do this? I'm like, it's my birthday. All right, you do it. That there is just it's priceless. It really is priceless. And for everything else, mate, there's Mastercard or whatever that ad was.

2:26 Exactly. That was a very good very good uh very good uh concept that [music] priceless. It was very very good. Yeah. Hey, I can see people are finding us and sorry I didn't send any invites out this week, guys. If you found us, you're a true OG because you just know, you know. I said no invites. So, I wondered if anyone was going to show up and here you guys are. So, love it. Good stuff. Good stuff. Thank you very much. It's I love the fact that most people are coming in from YouTube now. I do like that a lot. I think it's a lot smoother experience than the LinkedIn experience as well. Yes. Although Glenn is finding us through LinkedIn and we see him hopping over through YouTube and Eric's there on YouTube, but he found us through LinkedIn. [music] So, it's a funnel, isn't it? It's kind of like people find us through LinkedIn, jump to the better experience of YouTube for the live show and yeah, it's great.

3:16 We're going to be talking more about that, me and you. Uh, growing YouTube, I think in future weeks because we're putting loads and loads more effort into it. You want to put more effort into it. And I think that's going to be something that our audience would love to hear what we find successful, what others find successful. We've certainly got some people on here that have got 20 plus thousand YouTube subscribers that tune in regularly, you know, so that would be really nice to hear from them as well about what helped when they [music] were sharing stuff. Uh, that would be a really nice way to do it. Legends in the building. Afroofutcher finding us. It was so nice to see you. Oh my god. Every time I see her and Ryan and all the London crew, mate, I'm just like, "Yes, you saw him in France." It all went to France.

4:03 I knew you went to France. I didn't realize everyone else was there. So, oh, nice. Lots of us were in there, like Martin, all of the London crew, actually. Uh, minus a few, you know. Um, but yeah, they're always asking where you are. Actually, they're always saying, "When's Andrew gonna come to one of these and like when are we going to finally meet Andrew and stuff like this?" One day, one day I I'll make a I'll make an appearance. But the thing is, this has always been throughout my whole life. Even when I was working in the music industries, very rarely would you see me at events and stuff. I Yeah. Yeah. I was always like that. I would have tickets to the most like ridiculous things and it would be like, "Nah, I can't bother to go." Like I've always Mr. Elusive. I've always been that way. Um yeah, to get me out of my house is is a lot. So to be fair, to be fair, maybe that's the way to do it is just book you, you know, book you for a talk or [laughter] whatever it is.

4:54 Turn up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or a panel or Yeah. To be honest, I do need to do it more. So hopefully next year you're going to see me more a lot more of these events. definitely want to be at a lot more of these events because I'm always coming back hearing what you've said or people in the chat said or just seen it on my feed and I'm like, "Oh man, I should have gone." Even if it's just to put like a face to some of the uh names. Definitely. Um that one was beautiful. As Diane will tell you, it was in a, you know, gorgeous little south of France town, which is the home place of cinema, which is why it was particularly interesting because it is literally the very first cinema in the world that we were watching stuff in. Very, very cool as a piece of history there. Um, but like

What was the Shaike Film Festival in La Ciotat like?

5:40 I think what's awesome now is that so many uh have invited me that that I can give you, you know, recommendations cuz that was its first ever event. You know, I had I couldn't recommend it before because I'd never been and it had never been a thing. But now we know how good it was, what the place was like, all of that. I could highly recommend it for next year. They play a lot of AI videos and stuff. Yeah, it was a mixture though because um and this is the thing that I it's a bit of a speculation here. So, if Jeremy tells me this isn't true, the event organizer, then it may not be true. But I think to get the local mayor's permission in the home place of cinema, they had to open it up to both normal cinema as well as AI and hybrid and everything else. We didn't watch a lot of normal cinema, but there was allowed to be entries and stuff, you know, of regular

6:30 uh films and stuff. So, it was a fully open festival. The coolest thing was that were just members of the public walking in. We did this thing called the 100 love letters to cinema and there was a hundred of us sitting in tables like making our projects and the public were just walking in and out asking what's going on. What's going on there? Yeah. Like everyone's just at their computers, you know, with their headphones on typing furiously away. At one point Dina dropped for an hour and a half and everyone was freaking out that they were getting it done. Yeah. Which was uh funny. But people from all over the world, mate, there were people from Pakistan. People from all over flew to this little south of France uh place. It was awesome. Wicked. Ah, Afroa said, "I'm going back there." Nice. It was really nice. In fact, she found uh a really cool marketplace and we all ate at this Thai place.

7:21 Uh and she ate there three nights in a row because it was so good. Uh but I I got to experience it once and it was I'd go back just for that. It was delicious. Really? How long were you there for? Only three nights. Oh, okay. Nice. And the first night was sort of a, you know, welcoming drink. So, it was just two days really. Uh, but they were full-on days, you know, from like morning till late night, everything. Um, so the first one I hosted two panels. I hosted one on the future of advertising and the future of VFX and the coolest guy on my panel to my right had like worked on Darth Punk music videos and I was like, "Oh my god." you know, I couldn't stop looking at him after I found that out. I was like, "Oh my god." You know, wow. I've never known anyone to do that. The overall consensus of the future of advertising

Where are AI advertising and VFX heading?

8:12 that it's just so in the balance, you know, and that small people can do really big client work. In fact, individuals can work at the highest possible level, you know, uh which is really fascinating to see. And uh still though big teams can pull off incredible stuff as well. You know, it's not just that this the future of advertising is small companies uh doing stuff. It's it's going to be everything. Um but yeah, the VFX one was insane. You know, how people are using it for VFX and what they're doing and it's just so many techniques. You forget about all of them. Rotoscoping and like machine learning and all of this other stuff. It's all AI. Even though generative AI is the thing that we know and talk about, it's always

9:01 been AI and it is going to be more and more AI, you know, it's just and hearing those guys with 20 years experience. You can really hear that. You're like, "Oh, we we're very used to AI, you know. It's nothing new to us. You know, we work and CGI. What do you think we've been doing this whole time?" You know, like it's uh it's Yeah, it's kind of funny, but yeah. Oh, man. But isn't it isn't it in America, isn't it super intelligence now? That's what I was reading. What the hell is [laughter] that? Oh my god. It's not even AI anymore. It's super They've rebranded, mate. Sbrand. [laughter] What was that? Oh my god. When I saw that, I thought, "Oh, okay. Is maybe a dirty word or something that they're having to rebrand it." It's like, yeah, that's what I thought at first.

Is AI being rebranded as super intelligence?

9:46 I was like, why would they rebrand it? And unless it's a a dirty word or b they want to rebrand it so they get the credit for it. That's the that's the only way. So uh yeah si exactly uh Theresa ha it's so silly isn't it? Because like I think that it should have a very scientific name you know like agi is general intelligence as we know but asi was super intelligence which is more than general intelligence i.e. The sum of all humans plus more, you know, that is essentially what my definition of ASI was versus AGI, you know, uh, which is just general intelligence. And AGI hasn't been achieved by no means yet. We're at just regular AI, which is not general. It's just very specific, you know, it's uh, [laughter] it's not got the generalness.

10:39 So, that was my definition. But yeah, they're just trying to screw up all my definitions, mate. No, but to be honest, I think they knew when he said it's going to be called SI, I think they were like, we can't, it's not really super intelligence yet, but we can't say anything because we don't want to get on the bad side of him. What a load of nonsense to say. We got Marco tuning in. He just got back from his he just got back from his own film festival cuz he was uh a finalist in a Kazakhstan AI film festival. Yeah. How did it go? How did it go, Marco? Let us know. He said it was really cool. He said that unfortunately he didn't win uh but that the festival was really interesting and that he sent me some examples to watch today about uh you know things that were there. So thanks again Marco for helping out with all of the show as usual.

11:26 We've got so much awesome stuff because of your suggestions week on week. Really appreciate it. We've also got some of the actual winners from the Shake Festival as well and I'm going to be asking them to come on in the future. especially uh this guy that made one called Incubus that I'm going to show you later. Um the only problem with his one, however, is that he really is not confident in English. Um so his French is obviously amazing, but unless we had like a translation text thing, I don't know if they'd be comfortable live. So we might need to do a pre-recorded version for him uh just to make him bit more comfortable. [sighs and gasps] But yeah, the um the other one that I thought was particularly interesting was the one that won the best documentary

12:12 and we don't get to see a lot of those. So I thought that was a really interesting one that we could watch. Then we saw the typical stuff like the best ad and um those guys uh so it was for Maserati this one. Um, and I actually met Bruno Diton and Stefan Benini, who are like the two guys that are working with all of the major car companies because they worked at the Bionic Awards doing the Formula E competition as well. Bruno did. He did. Yeah. Remember that um Formula E one where Alex came on and we watched it. It was the race car. That was him. That That was him. So, yeah. Yeah. He's like they've just got the car niches locked down, you know, completely locked down. Uh which is awesome. And what else do we have? Oh, the other one that was the overall winner of the Grand Prix prize, as they call it, uh was a

13:05 really fascinating piece as well. A lot of visual analogies um from someone called Mark, who I'd known for a while now, but hadn't actually got to meet in person from uh Germany. A really great director on Simon Mayer's level, I would argue, Andrew, in in the film space, you know, I'd say Simon is really in the ad space and this guy is really in the short film space. So, we've got a lot of cool stuff to watch as well as um yeah, a Door Brothers piece that we missed out on by 30 minutes last week, if you remember, and some animation pieces as well. I think I'm going to do that in the future shows, you know, sort of announce what we've got upcoming so people know expect and stuff. Yeah. And the other funny thing that we're going to finish on, uh, oh, maybe we should start it.

13:50 Maybe I should, uh, you know, when comedians do their best joke first so that they have to follow it with all of that stuff. Well, maybe we should start with a laugh and then see if we can keep going with the serious content after. Set the tempo. Yeah. Because um, remember last week when I asked Kareem if he wanted to go in his direction or the dots one? Well, we'll watch the dots one because I've seen this from Ahri, and Ahri is just a hilarious uh guy on on LinkedIn and X and stuff making very satirical stuff about the news. And when uh OpenAI announced Dots, which is their sort of agent plan at $100 a month or more, he came out with this. Have you ever wanted a cute little Robo-Dot to delegate [music] your life to? Introducing Robo-D.

Ari Kuschnir's Robo-Dot, a satire of OpenAI Dots

14:39 Just plug it in, give it a name, and make it an extension of you. Your Robo-Dot takes [music] the important things off your plate. Like your family. Daddy, look what I made. Dad loves it, sweetheart. I summarized it for him. And your work. Great news, everyone. Productivity is up 400%. So, we'll only be needing the dots. Best of all, your robot can [music] talk to their robot, so you don't have to. And then Denise says to me, "Can you believe it? You're absolutely right, honey. Great point." And that frees you up for all the other stuff. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

15:31 [snorts] Very good. Very good. Exactly. And he's so quick as well. Um, basically when that was announced, that was out within a few hours, you know, like he's like jumping on the news, you know, newsjacking like we used to do, you know, back in the old days. He's doing that with AI video at that level. Pretty damn his his his like like turnover is very quick. then for you to newsjacking and writing text for newsjing is one thing but creating whole videos around it like that's that's unbelievable what I don't understand and I'm still struggling to get my head around this if I use let's say for example I I pay for magnific it will say no it will say you can't use it like so how do they get around this like I literally just before we came on air someone sent me a video of

How are people making AI videos with famous faces?

16:22 Samuel Jackson in a prison and John uh not John Claude, Rocky was doing um what's it called? Like pull-ups and that. So I'm like how how do they do this? Like how do they get around? I mean there's ones that are more allowable like cling for example will allow more, you know, famous people references and stuff like that. But yeah, there's wider models as well that I don't know what the stack is because we don't do that sort of stuff, you know, but I know there's uncensored versions and stuff out there as well. Uh artcraft uh is one of them and I've heard that others are providers of like sea dance that will allow you know other things to be uploaded but yeah okay that's how they're doing them essentially is they're not using the typical like you say magnific or whatever

17:10 that will block they're just you they're using other providers that are more uncensored versions and whatever or you can do character replacement as well you know which is another thing that is often the case that people are doing at the moment Um, I don't like it though, honestly. I think it's cheap, you know, to reskin a video with just replacing a character. I don't feel like it's creative enough and it might be a funny internet meme or whatever, but it's not any deeper than that, you know? So, yeah. I'm yet to see creative uses of them other than just for memes so far. So, I haven't really any up. But, yeah, I guess if you try to do anything else with it, like from a commercial point of view, they will get sued. Especially if it was if it was successful. So [clears throat] might be the reason why um someone said please share the person's name who did that video.

17:58 Oh it's Ari Kushner. Um, I will say what you need to do there, Sundala, is if you sign up to luma.com/theai live show, I'll just type it into the chat now and put it on the screen. Then we will send out to a newsletter. Every time this show is on, all of the links to everything that we watch comes in this newsletter after the show. You can sign up in LinkedIn as well. You get the same newsletter there if you're tuning in through LinkedIn. Um, but I can see you're through YouTube. So yeah, either come to Luma for the newsletter or go to LinkedIn and sign up through the AI live show and all of the links to all of the people will be there. No worries. And it sounds like it was worth a trip for Marco as well. Fivestar Hilton Hotel paid for. Very nice. Nice finalist perks there.

Apple's Mac Studio ad and hybrid motion design

18:49 Oh, let's keep going. So this one is kind of AI related, but not really. I'll tell you why it is that something I'm going to watch though. I'm in uh the market for a new PC right now because my Mac Mini has kind of had it and really as Yeah. Like I've got the new uhish Apple one, you know, it's Apple M1, so it's like the new Apple silicon, but it's like they're on M5 series now. Sure. And uh I've seen that above the Apple Mac Mini there is this Mac Studio, which I'd never actually used. Have you ever used a Mac Studio? No, no. So, it's kind of like a beefier Mac Mini that's optimized for AI. And I think this is going to be the future, you know, with like localized AI models and stuff like this. Plus, they talk about AI in this nice graphic video they made um as well about how you use the Mac Studio for AI, but I think they actually

19:43 used AI, you know, like practice what you preach. I think they use some generative AI like effects and VFX in here as well as traditional motion design and stuff. But yeah, if you're in the hunt for a new Mac Studio, check this out. Cool little ad there. Hey, so who someone made that for Apple? Yes, it was an it was an No, not a spec ad. That was a real ad for um Apple by an agency, but they used AI. I seen like uh in the LinkedIn post, I saw three AI artists actually, you know, given credits in that. Yeah. So, it's that's what I'm seeing now is like that was hybrid motion design AI artists all about AI, you know, for the new Mac uh studio basically.

20:32 So, a nice like integration of both really. It's it's the hybrid thing I'm seeing a lot. And you know what I thought I've been playing around with Claude Opus 5.5 since you know I told you about how crazy it was and we watched Rory's one. you know, it cut a show reel for him and stuff, didn't it? And I've been trying it out with some of my music videos, just seeing what it could do. It's hella fun. And that's where I think it's going to be really interesting is like imagine you make a sea dance video, but you want exactly what we just seen, like loads of graphic text and stuff coming in. [clears throat] That's what Claude could do for you now, you know, natively without any plugins and stuff. But anyway, I gave it um I gave it this is what's so interesting. All I did was give it an image reference of an album art vinyl piece that I'd created and I gave it one of my new songs that I'd made and I asked it to create like

A Claude Opus 5.5 music video from one album cover

21:26 a 50-second dancing video based on it. It's kind of like an old, you know, like a Nintendo style graphics basically. It's kind of like a old sort of theme. But anyway, it went a bit crazy, you know, and it just started doing all sorts of stuff and I started to like, as you do with Claude, you know, just sort of tweak it and just sort of play with it a little bit. And then I was like, why don't you do levels so that after level one, the dance moves get a little bit more complex. And then then as the name of the album was game over, so I want you to end with you like failing the game. You know, you're playing like a dance game and then the character fails and then it says game over and it has like but it added all of the sound effects and everything else. And so this is just how far I've got in 51 seconds and I'm still working on it.

22:15 But check this out. Heat. Heat. [music] [music]

23:07 I like it. It's cool. It's so addictively fun because that was, like I said, just one reference image. It wasn't a character sheet. It wasn't anything. I literally showed it the uh album cover that I'd made and then just gave it that and the song and said, you know, see what it can make. And it's so much fun just to mess around with. I I hear people are vibe coding games the same way, you know, just it's kind of mad what's going on in the gaming space. Yeah, crazy the gaming space. Like some of the games that I see people make are just like looks amazing, you know? Even the gameplay looks pretty good. So it's Yeah, I wish I had time to do stuff like this. That's That's the thing. Wish I had time. Tell me about it. I'm like, where do you guys get the time? I've seen a guy I've seen my mate Chris first. He just launched this game and I'm like, where have you been doing that?

23:56 Like, where where do you just get time to burn through these tokens? But they do. Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, let's get into um some of the Oh, I had one more piece of news actually. It's a very, very quick one. We watched 11 Labs V4 last week. Yes. and it was a really nice demo video, but I've seen this really short demo video and it's only 14 seconds just showing some of the like extra capabilities that this one has that others didn't. So, let's check it out. This is real. This is real. You [sighs] remember me? You remember me? This is real. You came back. So those sorts of things are so key honestly you know like when you're working on a script and you really want something said in a sad way even

ElevenLabs v4 tonality

24:49 though those words you know you can't give the tonality you're basically able to give it the so you can say the exact same words in a totally different tone and they feel completely different just like music when you change the music and that's a feature in 11 Labs. Yes, exactly. It's now a new um so it's the V4 tonality. So basically you'll be able to see you know in the prompt bar below you'll have a little box below there will be a drop down with all of the variances of tonality that you can choose from from happy to sad to tired you know all of the variances. Okay play around with it. Yeah should be a really good one. So if you guys have tried any of that um and have any sort of examples to show us in the next couple of weeks, please send them through

25:37 uh aliliveshow.com. We have a full site to submit now and watch all of this these back. So go over there and send it through. Really, really cool. But that ends the end of the news and we didn't have an ad section last week and we've only got one ad this week. Um but it's a very good one. In fact, it was an awardwinning ad uh from the Shake Festival. It won the overall best ad prize and it's by a couple of people that I really want to have on on the creator sessions. I discovered actually that they are a duo much like Robert and Albert who we had on before. You know, they work pretty much all the time together. So, I think we could have them on together. Bruno and Stefan. Um Bruno Donant and Stefan. Really, really talented guys. We talked about them in previous episodes cuz uh they came on and did the Formula E um

Maserati: 100 Years of the Trident, best ad at Shaike

26:28 trailer for the Bionic Awards. That was Bruno and this one was called Maserati 100 Years of the Trident. So that's one of the specific Maserati cars, I believe. So let's check it out. [music] [music] Do you know what it takes to turn a symbol into an icon? Passion shaping identity. [music] Timeless Italian design defining excellence.

27:14 Spirit [music] driven by innovation. Vision guiding the future. [music] Character forged through time. [music] And senses awakened by emotion. For [music] 100 years. [music] It's a great ad. Great ad. Yeah. Really classy, huh? You could tell that these guys work at the highest level with all of the big car companies. It's really hard to compete with that, honestly. Yeah, that was Yeah. Like that could just be on TV. Like Exactly. You wouldn't think anything.

28:03 You just think, "Oh, it's a Maserati's got a new ad." Like, exactly. And that at the highest level is what you want, isn't it? Is you don't even question the AI. You don't question any of it. The pipeline, you just saw a classy ad that you that you know for to be a car ad, and that's it. It doesn't matter about the origin, who made it, the fact that there's only two of them. The fact that it was an AI ad for an AI award, none of that matters really. It's just can this be shown on TV and will people believe it? And yes is both of the answers. And that was a spec ad that one was. I believe that was a um they do work with the highest car brands. So it could have been that Maserat is an actual client to them. I will find out from them. Um so I don't know if that's the answer.

Does it matter if a TV-ready ad was made with AI?

28:50 Uh if it was a real ad for a client or whether that was a spec ad that they wanted to make. Um, it would obviously be more impressive if it was a real ad because then you'd have had to take the direction of a very specific car company in all of this to get that through through legal. So, uh, we'll find out more we'll find out more about that one. But now we're into sort of the everything else we thought was exciting this uh this week. And we're we're only 30 minutes into the show, which means it's basically everything this week. You know, it's kind of insane. Uh, but this is where it's really interesting. We're going to open up some new categories here. We haven't actually been submitted many documentaries and Shake had a festival for lots of different things. You know, there was ads, there were films, but there was documentaries as well, music videos as well.

The Next Second, best documentary

29:40 So, they had loads of different categories and some we're familiar with, some we're not. But documentaries is not something that we really have watched a lot of. And this one really caught my eye. And we're gonna hopefully get the creator to come on tell us more about it because again he was only really giving his thanks you know on the stage receiving the re the award. He wasn't saying much about the creation of it. Um this one is called the next second however and it was voted the best documentary in its category by the judges. Strap in. This one is 8 minutes long. Let's check it out. [music] This is what paradise [music] looked like 500 years ago

30:26 in the head of a man from a small Dutch town. Nobody knows what he meant [music] by it. For 300 years, nobody even used the title. In the royal inventory, [music] it was listed simply as the strawberry painting. Everything you're about to see actually happened. Somebody [music] stood still so that somebody else could look. [music] [music] A boy who fell in love with his own reflection.

31:14 And could not walk away. Nobody is sure who painted him. For 300 years, the picture had no author at all. [music] 18 men paid 100 gilders each about 4 months wages to be painted standing in a row the way everybody [music] was painted then he painted them moving instead. Nobody had ever done that.

31:59 Half of them complained. The girl in the middle is 5 years old. In 10 years, she will be married to her own uncle. At 21, she will be dead. This is the year the painter chose to keep. Nobody has ever known what was in that [music] letter. The painter gave us only the reading, the quiet part before you find out. She has been on the same page for 370

32:45 years. [music] [music] The dancers were 13, 14, six days a [music] week. And everyone called them little rats. Rich men bought season tickets for the right to [music] wait backstage. He could not afford models, so he painted himself 35 times in 4 years.

33:37 [music] The scream is not his. He wrote that it came from outside, that nature screamed and he only heard it. He is trying to keep it out. [music] It took him 3 years and more than 100 drawings. She was 26. She ran the most talked about salon in Vienna and she smoked her way through every argument in it. The gold is real.

34:26 The women are from a street in Barcelona everybody knew about. The masks he had seen a week earlier in a museum. He worked on it for 9 months, then rolled it up. His friends were sure he had lost his mind. He asked his sister and his dentist to pose. He always said they were father and daughter. Everybody decided they were married. His sister begged him to make her look older so people would stop asking.

35:24 [music] Strange things happen to people and nobody writes them down. She wrote everything down in paint herself more than 50 times because she was so often alone and because she knew that face best. [music] He said that without meaning to, he had probably been [music] painting the loneliness of a large city. People have been looking for that [music] diner in New York ever since.

36:13 There never was one. [music] He painted the same man in a bowler hat over and over and never once showed his face. He said it was a self-portrait. Are you ready, Jerry? None of them knew they were being kept. It was an ordinary day. A bored child in a room. Dancers waiting to go on. A man walking home across a bridge.

36:59 Somebody was looking. And that was enough to hold them for 500 years. Nobody stood still today. Nobody wrote it down. It happened anyway. 500 years. And the only [music] one who saw all of it was her. [music] [music] [music] Pretty [music]

38:02 [music] [music] Cool, huh? Yeah, it was. Do you know what I I was I when you said it was a documentary, I was thinking, how are they going to do this with AI? And it feel it didn't feel like a documentary, but it felt like it's almost I can't explain. Like I was literally watching this thinking to myself, I don't know. I don't know what to say. [laughter] Like it was amazing storytelling. I agree though. It wasn't a documentary in the way. It was It was more storytelling

Is The Next Second really a documentary?

38:48 and revealing if you like of this idea that a fly is always included in these famous artists work. But the thing that threw people off in the cinema I think was the fact that they couldn't instantly recognize the paintings, you know, like because they'd used like, you know, more realist like when we saw Freda Carlo, it wasn't actually Freda Carlo. It was just someone that sort of resembled her, you know, and um Gustaf Clint and all of these other famous artists, you know, we were sort of like it was always alluding to it. It even gave it away in the very beginning. Um but yeah, that was the kind of Yeah, it was interesting. Oh. Oh gosh. So [laughter] just jumped up on the table.

39:40 Uh yeah. Yeah, that was Yeah, artistically it was fantastic. And I'm trying to work out the like I said that what category is this or sometimes we don't need to label it. We don't need to necessarily label it. It was just really good piece of content that I'm not surprised you know type thing. Yeah, exactly. If you're an art history major, you'd have instantly recognized all of those things, you know, but otherwise you just on for the ride. And then it was a really nice reveal at the end. Kind of like a good ad would do, you know, more less a documentary. A documentary you kind of know the subject and it's all about, you know, getting to know more about it. But this was more like a reveal um which was always alluded to from the start, which is Yeah, it didn't really fit any category, but

40:28 um just such a nice piece and such an awesome thing to surface. Yeah. And as um Eric, is it Eric said? Um can watch that many times over and discover even more detail. I bet you there's a lot of things going on here that you can watch over and over again. So silly. I really like the camera movement, you know, much like unlike a documentary, as you'd say, more like a proper, you know, like cinematic type camera movement, but it's really fast moving uh between different characters. So I really like that element to it. Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. Fascinating stuff. But let's get to some some of the shorter stuff. Um because we get we've got another bunch of long stuff to watch. Um but I want to rapid fire because I love the rapid fire element to this show as well.

Icarus: a rapid fire of style-first shorts

41:14 We got submitted a bunch of stuff which are very exciting. In fact, Marco who's tuning in says he and he's got a very good eye for this that this guy is about to blow up because this guy's style is just so nice and he's not seen much like it in the AI space. And I agree with him. Uh it's really really cool. Um I will share his handle at on screen as we're watching these short pieces, but I've got two short pieces that he's made that uh I really really like. The first one is called Icorus and it's 1 minute 21. Let's check it out. [music] [music]

42:05 [music] [music] [music] Not too low. Not too high. Heat. [music] [music] Heat. [music]

42:55 [music] [music] [music] Yeah, I like his style. I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's It's almost between manga meets like a video game. Like a video. That's exactly how I thought about it. Oh my god. I was trying to picture it in words and you've just nailed it in my head. Manga was the style that really stood out. But the like, you know, the overall art element of it is just so nice, isn't it? Let's watch this other one anyway. Groaning. What I'd like to see from this though, because I think he's on X mostly, is he's posting these very short things with not too much story,

Groaning

43:44 but loads of style, is to just go a little bit longer, you know, into the storytelling element of things. Uh, but let's check out groaning. [music] So, I'll be [music] till I die and I'll grab a mic till I make it world making the [music] world my own. So [music] I hope you enjoy the lights. Open up the window. Don't you want to party? Don't you [music] want to blow smoke? That is in the heart break. Tell me what the cars say. Give me all the [music] tingles. I want my witches making them weak.

44:31 Told us that we would never be free. They been singing the melody wrong. Maybe [music] in a whole different key till I make it all work. Making the [music] world my own. So hold tight. I hope you [music] enjoy. Crazy style, huh? I thought that was not much like that. Not much story, you know, yet like really it's all action sequences and like optimized X stuff. So hopefully comes over to the, you know, YouTube side of things and starts bringing those styles and characters into

45:16 developed stories with actual character development and stuff like that. Yeah, I really like that last one. Really liked it. Yeah, Marco knows, you know, he knows good style and like it's so unique, you know, in this AI space of everyone can make anything. This guy's style really stands out to people like Marco and so yeah, I really like it as well. Hopefully, uh, we can get him on the show. You're not that late. How are you? So good. So good to see you in Shake as well. So many of the people I got to meet in person, mate. It's awesome. We've got AI Studios Films as well tuning in. Thank you so much. We were talking about uh YouTube growth earlier and as I say, lots of you guys have got decent amounts of YouTube subs.

46:02 So, we'd really love to um talk about all of that. Yeah. Shake was amazing, wasn't it? We had a really, really good time, mate. They left us with so many bottles of wine. I had to leave two in the hotel. [laughter] I didn't know what to do. Yeah. Every bag in every day was like a bag of wine in it. And they had like cork screws and stuff and I was I already got a headache because I don't drink these days because I was drinking whilst I was there. I was like I can't just be unccorting bottles of wine in my hotel [laughter] room at the end of the night. Where where are we at when that's when that's happening? You didn't get two back to the UK. No way. I left them there thinking fluids will never get through. So Oh, that's disappointing. I wish I'd bloody tried to get them back to the UK. That would have been that would have been better. Oh yes, as Marco said, that guy is doing like short content to

Gossip Goblin's feature film heads for cinemas

46:54 get traction and maybe later transitioning into long form like Gossip Goblin did. I watched a lot of Gossip Goblin shorts, by the way, since he's been on the show. I told him this uh I sent it my favorite ever short that he made the other day. He said it's the one that got the least traction for him, but I thought it was one of the best AI shorts I've ever seen. I'll send it to you after the show. In fact, I might even download it um as we're watching one of the longer pieces, but it's a vertical, you know, so it might look a bit strange in the in the horizontal, but in fact, I will actually download that when we watch one of the pieces because I really really liked it. Really really liked it. Um he's so good and he's got, you know, a theater run coming very soon. Uh he's, you remember he when he came on the show, he was telling us he was doing a feature film that was running in theaters.

47:42 It's in October, mate. So it's literally coming out flown because I remember him thinking I was thinking ah still quite way wow it's crazy and he's been doing it like insane hours per day you know dedicated to this and as I I think I said in a previous show he had a postcode thing you know where you could sign up with your postcode to reveal the closest theater to you but it only had a like North American states in there but apparently the most popular postcode submitted to him was London. Yeah. So now, so now he's like, you know, opening up a London theater version of it. Is he gonna be over in London? You would assume so for the premiere in the London where it's the most popular postcode. And I and I was like, make sure you get me and Andrew tickets, you know, so that we can come along.

48:30 So hopefully that's we find out about that in the next couple of weeks. I hope should be awesome, mate. Sounds not that surprising actually that London was the most popular with his accent choice, you know, like even though he's exactly he he liked he likes a British accent. Yeah, he might have thought that he was mocking us, whereas actually we bloody love it, mate. So yeah, G give us more of that if if you've got it. But um let's look at some other short pieces. Actually, this one was suggested to us by two really cool people. It was suggested to us by Marco as well, but uh Sander from Evolving AI actually shared this piece as well. And um it's by a guy called Tupac, who I believe Blacklight actually knows. So if you're still tuning in, Blacklight, let us know if we can get in touch with Tupac because I've seen this Nuremberg

Nuremberg

49:20 piece that was really, really cool. In fact, I saw two of his pieces, but we've only got one for the show because we're thinking we might get him on for a creative session in the future. Um, oh, before I share this though, you know who else was shared on Evolving AI last week and went really big viral? Kareem right after the show. You know that you know that Star Wars piece that we shared? Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He literally uh Yeah. Got got mega viral on Evolving AI with that like 70 plus thousand engagements on Instagram. So that would have really helped him out, no doubt. Um but anyway, let's check out Nuremberg.

50:22 Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. No. No. Move. Move. Get down.

51:19 [screaming] Unheld me. By whose authority? Dr. D, you're coming with us now. Secured. moving. Elizabeth has to trust you above everyone. She trusts me. Send me back. That's not up to me. [screaming] We cannot direct, soldier, or you will be terminated.

52:27 Pretty intense. It's kind of crazy to see the level at which that sort of graphics can happen now, isn't it? Cance 2.5 has really made that really watchable. So, somebody said looks like Miniax H3 local generation could well be. Yeah. When when Tut Roberts said that, I thought to myself, are we at the point now where we can tell a generation by like the model? Like we can look at something and be like, "Oh, that's C dance or that's V3 or that's cuz I know some people could do that with certain cameras. They like, oh, this this camera or that that's what's going to happen with AI soon. It's going to be like Well, I could definitely tell you that VO3.1. I just had to watch last night. I had It's so funny you say that. I'm judging the Formula E uh competition and uh I had to watch about

Can you tell which AI model made a video?

53:17 22 entries with VO3.1 with Google Flow and my exact thing was to try and spot if anybody use C dance or cling or anything like that because obviously they have synth ID for Google but like you know you could spot things as well that you just know aren't capable in V3.1 and flow and stuff. Uh, so yeah, it was really interesting you say that because yeah, I think uniquely there are a few of us that watch these videos that could do that. As you say, lenses or aperture or, you know, color grading or actor performance and smearing faces was a was a giveaway. It meant the ey line problem. Indeed. And uh it's so interesting you talk about localized

What is real-time, truly live AI?

54:03 uh Miniax too because we're going to be collaborating with Wonder Studios in the future and they're talking with FAL and FAL are a company that have because um Miniax released open weights model Andrew you can tune it and they've made a real time version where you can actually generate faster than you can type so you can continually have a piece of game evolving. This is a new type of content alto together you know it is truly live AI um so that may actually come over to us you know the live AI live AI type thing so type stuff yeah it's kind of exactly it right on the that's what we'll be doing in the future we'll be doing the show live where somebody will at the time will be prompting a whole film and then by the end of the show we were like right let's see your film and then and then they could do it I said like imagine you're at a music concert, like

54:57 you're at a Snoop Dogg music concert and you're in Detroit and Detroit's got all of its local stuff that you know the crowd could be interacting with the visuals by shouting out words and, you know, typing in and sending text messages just in the same way Harry M takes like live things from the audience. Imagine that where everything's a crowd participation. the visuals you're seeing, the vocals you're hearing, the music that's being played, it could all be alive in performance. You just need to trust people though. That's the thing. You just got to make sure what goes up. Obviously, you might You need filters. Yeah. Some filter or something. Some blockage. Yeah. But, uh, it could be so cool, right? Like that's the thing that's so exciting about this is it's literally new types of stuff that was never possible before.

55:48 Like live visuals being enacted by an audience is the same way that you know the future of media is going in that we'll all have personalized shows. You know we we'll all have personalized stuff at a level that we never conceived before because it was never possible that someone could make all possible outcomes of a show. But world models is just the same bridge that we're crossing as well because world models will be just like GTA 6 straight back to your thing. You know, it's just a giant interactive world where there's so many outcomes and different ways things could go unlike a show which kind of has like one ending. This could have multiple endings, you know. Yeah, you could you could choose the good way or the bad way or the or the midway, you know, and have a different outcome, which is going to be

Could personalised endings kill spoilers?

56:35 so fascinating how media evolves. Well, this is going to be interesting. I think one a reason why you need different outcomes is because I was thinking about this earlier on today. Actually, the film The Usual Suspects. Have you seen that? No, I haven't. Oh, my favorite film of all time. But it wouldn't work today because of if anyone's seen it, you'll know why at the end it wouldn't work today because of like everyone would say what happens. And if there was like, let's say for example, um, Christopher Nolan had this big film with a huge reveal at the end, it couldn't last a day cuz everyone would just be spoiling it like online. You have, you go on to YouTube, there'll be a thumbnail that's just basically telling you what's happened.

57:21 And but if we've got alternative endings based on us, then that will stop spoilers. Oh wow, that is a very deep thought. No social media spoilers cuz nobody actually knows the ending which plays a huge huge part in in many things. Could you imagine if it was like a casino where it was like a roll of the dice? I.e. you didn't know which ending you were going to get shown but the direct the director got to sort of pick you know like oh Boston's going to see the bad ending and New York's going to see the happy ending. Oh man algorithms control it. So they say, "All right, we know that you're an angry person when you see this. So let's put this ending because it's going to spark this type of emotion." You know, that's where we start going into super intelligence.

58:09 That's [laughter] or that we will do that. I mean, it's just it's so interesting how things are getting blurred, isn't it? Like that feels to me like you'd never imagine in your lifetime you'd watch a show where this could end totally different based on who you are. But as you say, in our lifetime, we ne um we've seen the rise of algorithms whereby everybody's Netflix looks completely different and is tailored to them based on all of the information that they've gathered from you all around the web, you know. So, it's the next step in personalization that is going to get creepy and it's going to get weird. But like the thing that makes me question it is like what do you discuss as society if you do see different outcomes of a show?

What will world models do to TV and film?

58:57 Do you all just say you love the world model that produced the show? You know, like because that's the thing that I like think of a world model as a deeper level than a show. Then there's a pallet involved in a world model and a to an overall theme maybe but the outcome is different for everyone that goes into it. So you're in love with the underlying like you know assets. Yeah. But not necessarily the actual show, you know, which is so interesting. And I don't think we've ever experienced anything like that before or I haven't. I think it's going to be really interesting looking at TV in the next five years like and film like the way it's going to evolve evolve. cuz yeah I think yeah yeah it's all coming at such a rapid pace that can people evolve with it you know or will it take

59:50 a while for the new storytellers to emerge that build these worlds or will it be amongst a common theme you know like one one thing I thought of is imagine you had um like the genre of horror and you had uncanny Harry and all the other people that we know in that genre in that world model then you could go there and experience totally different films but within a world model. You know, it's kind of wild to think where where we're all going with all this. It could get really finite like is it going to be like Runescape or you know World of Warcraft or is it going to have like the metaverse type vibes or is it going to be you know what are these world models going to look like? I wonder. I think it'll be like the metaverse more than anything especially because of all the glasses but it will look better than the metaver metaverse looks like we're in a Nintendo 64 game.

1:00:41 I think it will look more like a like a proper proper world. That's a It's Ready Player One. Ready Player One. I think that's where they're trying to go to. It's going to be a clash of all sorts of stuff. Anyway, let's have a music video break. So, this one won the best music video category. And you know what? I think I'd seen this before, but I wasn't that familiar with it. And I wonder if you've seen it before. It's kind of an old AI video, but the reason it stands up so well is because it used a whole load of normal stuff as well, you know. Uh, again, it's this idea that AI artists can just be part of a much bigger team of like 3D artists, illustrators, designers, all of the traditional people you might see on a music video. They're just a contributing factor to it.

Snoop Dogg's Last Dance with Mary Jane, best music video

1:01:26 And it's called Last Dance with Mary Jane by Snoop Dogg. So, let's check it out. Okay. There's a tiny grape like fat called alvoli. Ravioli? No, not not not ravioli. Alvioli. You see this right here? This is a healthy lung, right? You see how nice and pink it is and kind of spongy? This is your lung. Resembles charcoal. Come on, Doc. Don't say no [ __ ] like that, man. If you keep smoking weed, you are going to die. Bring it in. You have a serious decision to make.

1:02:20 Guess this is my last dance with Mary Jane. [music] [music] Keep moving on. Keep moving on. Don't bother asking [music] me to ever give my lady up. Was about 5 years old. Taking my first P. It was love at first light. Fell in love [music] the first night. My uncle told me don't rush.

1:03:10 This could be your first crush. Now I'm on the block with all the homies and it's a family affair. 17 with a dream. Blowing smoke in the air. Certain things. My routine is [music] where I was that year. Avoiding the [ __ ] cabs in my rear view. [music] [music] County Blue is willing to lose [ __ ] I'm with all of my peers. Looking back, I wouldn't change [ __ ] Oh, what a career. I used to flip [music] bags with her. Skip class with her. Yeah, she comfortable as [ __ ] when I'm trying to smash with her. She got a lot of they always harassing [music] us. Ashes to ass dust. Feel like I'm lazerous. Can't get past the rush. Never pass her up. Who [music] took this [ __ ] worldwide? [ __ ] we gassing up now. It's time one more time.

1:04:01 [music] Even before the fame, she push. You know it ain't going to change. [music] [music] Heat. [music] Heat. [music] What's up, Pop?

1:04:51 [music] It ain't my time. [music] I've seen some things in my life. It feels like I'm raging inside. This [music] time I'm changing my mind. I'm saying goodbye. The danger inside. Sometimes you got to roll. [music] Somehow she came on my life between my eyes and made it all [music] everything she ever told me. Knew it from the get go. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. You cas [music] [music] the way she

1:05:36 sp this I try to run away from something [music] never [music] Even before [music] you know it. [music] [music] Yeah. [music] Heat.

1:06:22 [music] Moving [music] on. Oh no, I'm seeing in the chat stream has become unavailable. Is it because that was a copyrighted song? Oh no, I did did wonder about that. Oh damn. Just jumping on YouTube now. I was worried about that honestly. Damn. That's probably unavailable. Yeah. Stream suspended for policy violations. Oh no.

YouTube suspends the stream over a copyright strike

1:07:11 Oh no. So what? Can we not come back on? I have no idea. It still says we're live, but it's saying that nobody can watch us. Maybe LinkedIn we're still live. I don't know. Oh, damn it. Yeah, go to LinkedIn. Are we still live on LinkedIn? I think we might be. Oops. Indeed. I should have definitely ran that through the YouTube algorithm before. You lost us on YouTube, but Martin has found us again on LinkedIn. Uh, go to LinkedIn.

1:07:59 Must be X as well. Yeah. Uh we've probably been knocked out on a few places. Still on LinkedIn apparently. I don't know how we managed to get through the LinkedIn one and not get and [laughter] it's LinkedIn. Yeah, it's LinkedIn. Damn it. Damn it. Well, come over to LinkedIn, guys. You won't see us or hear us, so I'm just going to keep typing in the chat. LinkedIn, LinkedIn, LinkedIn. Yeah. Do you have to link to LinkedIn? Let me see if I can get it. Oh, yeah. Let's see if we can grab the LinkedIn link. Oh, damn it. How silly of me. Paul's going to have me for that one, I tell you. as the producer. He He always checks every video and I was adding them in last minute and that one won the music video category,

1:08:49 but obviously I should have checked that it was Oh, we're back. We're back on YouTube. We're back on YouTube, are we? Yeah. Yeah, it's just come back. Oh, there we go. We're still back. We're back, guys. If you're seeing us again, thanks for staying on. Apparently, we hit a temp a temporary copyright strike there. YouTube is back. Good to know. Thank you so much for letting us know in the comments as well. so that I could pull the video uh before the end. So maybe we didn't watch the full thing. Uh oh gosh, that was scary. Lesson learned in the future. I was about to say lesson learned. Yeah. I didn't realize YouTube would just like cut a live stream because of that. And also bring for a while. That's good. Yeah. And then bring us back without me actually doing anything, which is kind of strange.

1:09:36 I don't know whether they just uh had a flag and then allowed it or not. Not sure. No, I think it was either way just like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My music video interlude didn't go to plan. I should have left it to the end of the show like I usually do and then [laughter] so many barriers. But I'm sure I've seen we've seen it before cuz I remember Yeah. tripping me out a bit because on the live show we've shown that before and it hasn't. So they say it was new. I don't know. No, this is um it's it was entered to the music video categories, but it could have been entered whenever, you know, or created whenever. So, as long as it had AI that was provable use in there, which it was, you know.

1:10:22 Um so, yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I thought it was cool. Thought it was cool. Nice nice breakdown. A little slap on the wrist. That's all. That's all. We'll take that. We'll take that. Thank you, YouTube gods and the X algorithm [laughter] back on X. Yeah, we're not We mean no harm. We're here for educational purposes. Yeah, exactly. YouTube, we mean no harm. [laughter] Oh gosh. Right. Well, hopefully the next ones haven't got any copyright music in. I haven't checked those either. Um I don't actually know that to be true actually now that I'm saying that. So, we might be throwing a candle to the wind here and just guessing. Uh but yeah, what do you want to watch next? We've got another piece uh which is we've got two longer pieces or the door brothers piece which is a

The Dor Brothers' claymation short for Pippit

1:11:12 two-minute animation. Uh let's watch uh Door Brothers and then go to a longer one. All right. So, this one is for Pippet, which is one of the bite dance sort of offshoots that we don't hear much about because it's just for advertising apparently. Um uh if you've used Pippet in the audience, let us know and we're interested to hear about it. But they're who commissioned it from the door brothers and they didn't really say too much about it other than it was made with their platform and it's totally different from the door brothers usual stuff. Obviously we've seen them do very controversial stuff in the past but this is just you know it just shows their repertoire.

1:12:14 [music] What are you doing?

1:13:05 [music] [music] [music] Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. [music] [music]

1:13:59 [music] Yeah, really, really good. Really well done. Really well done. I'm watching it again here as well. Really well done. I really like that. Really like Like I said, it just shows the strength of the types of stuff they can create now. It's really, really fascinating. And I've seen a few projects that they've uh given me access to that are going to be coming out in the near future that I'm really excited to show on the show as well. Obviously, when they're out, they're out. But um just crazy how they can go from, you know, making Donald Trump skits on YouTube to then making something like that, you know, which is just on the exact opposite end of the scale. As Glenn says, charming.

1:14:48 Charming. Charming. Very charming. Thank you. Yes. It is a very Xmus type thing. Yes. Exactly. Exactly what I was thinking. It's got that Christmassy feel to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that animation claimation style is really really nice as well. And visual storytelling. It doesn't have to be a voice over narration. It's just very nice analogies. Just very clever, you know, like it's just so many deeper analogies there. Really really smart stuff. Okay, so we're back guys. Hopefully we don't get uh stried again by the end of this episode. As I said, I didn't check the next two pieces, so we could never quite be sure, but um actually um me and Marco saw a piece that I want to show you first, which I don't think that it is AI, but we're not

Kung Fu Kid: AI, 3D or a video game?

1:15:39 sure again. You know the thing where you were saying the other week, mate, you're just never sure anymore. You know, like is this 3D? Is it AI? Is it both? Is it neither? You know, is it something completely different? We're not quite sure. The reason I want to show you this one though is because um it's called Kung Fu Kid, and I think that it might be related to like a bigger IP of sorts that you might know about, but um let us know if you recognize it. What was

1:16:25 [music]

1:17:11 again. Not too sure about that. We're going to have to find out more about it and uh let you know in the newsletter. I don't think it's connected to anything I've seen before, but it reminds me of more like a video game. It looks like a video game. Yeah, that's the thing that we were confused about. It was like, is this a video game? Is it an AI video? [clears throat] Is it a 3D thing? We're not really sure. So, if anyone knows more about that, uh me and Marco found it right before the show. We thought it may be AI, but it wasn't obvious. But again, we're in this weird we're in this weird part where like if you use Opus, you can make Blender, which is like a 3D engine, and then use AI to reskin the Blender animations or have it as driving video to exactly control things. So, we're going to start seeing a lot more stuff like that.

1:17:58 Yeah, it's really, really, really interesting. But yeah, let us know in the comments. I haven't managed to get the polls up this week, guys. I can't do it all. Uh Paul's not with us, so I haven't been able to do the usual live voting and everything. Um and we may end a bit uh early today because we've only got two more videos to watch, but they are both quite long ones. And uh so strap in for the next one. Um I'll give you the options, mate. You've got Incubus, which is the winner of the best short film, or you've got a message for the butterfly, which was the overall Grand Prix winner. Which one would you like? Let's go with Incubus first and then end with the overall winner. So, as I said with this one, I really want to find out more about the director and and understand if he's comfortable recording in pre-recorded

Incubus, a director's first ever AI film

1:18:46 for English because I know that his English is definitely um not what he wants it to be. So, whatever he's most comfortable with, even if we need to get a translator, I think you'll find this one fascinating. It was the one that opened up the Shake Festival, you know, which was the very first category and it was the very first one we watched on screen in this cinema and it blew me away from the start. Honestly, it was very hard. It was very hard for the rest of the videos after that. I felt bad for them because imagine this one was just like out of the gate so shocking especially for those that were in the audience that you know don't watch regular AI videos like us. And the bit that's the most shocking about it to me, it's this dude's first ever AI video.

1:19:31 Wow. Well, I haven't seen it yet, so I'm saying wow. But if this is his first one, then it's winning all But with all that context, you know, he's 18 years, I believe, he's been doing proper directing, you know, holding cameras. So all of the camera movements and stuff you're about to see, they come from an archive of him doing this in real life and then just being able to translate this now to an LLM, you know. So this is the most fascinating thing about this is basically this is not only dude's first entry to an award show, it's his first ever AI video, which I just was like, whoa. Imagine, you know what this makes me think of? Imagine when we get just like the craziest film directors in the world just take their first steps with

1:20:18 AI and then they come out the gates swinging with stuff you've [laughter] never seen before. You know, you're it's going to really It got me super excited. Anyway, I big this one up enough. Let's check it out. Hey, how are you? You're inside my head right now. You came to hear my story, didn't you? Step inside. I'll leave the door open. [screaming] Welcome to my memories. That's me, 9 years old. [laughter] I had a secret. I could enter other [music] people's bodies. But you already knew that,

1:21:07 didn't you? [music] [sighs] It let me learn things long before everyone [music] else. A kiss feels warm, like the sun on your face. You close your eyes and you fall. I was nine, and I had already lived a thousand lives. One day, I wanted to understand why my [music] friend was so scared all the time.

1:21:54 So, I traveled into her father's head. [music] That night, I felt what a monster feels from the inside. [music] I swore I would never leave my body again. [screaming] So, I lived inside my own body, but I wasn't okay.

1:22:43 And then one day, [screaming] [music] her I felt it the moment I saw her. [music] She was my cure. For the first time in my life, I was happy. But something was wrong. I never learned how to live inside that happiness. It was all around me, and I couldn't step inside. Deep down, I didn't deserve it.

1:23:28 So one night I escaped and I lived and lived and lived [music] thousands of lives through other people's lives. But this time I was careful. No fear, no [music] monsters, only the good parts. Body after body, thrill after thrill, desire after desire. [music] I couldn't stop other people's happiness.

1:24:15 It was simpler, [music] more intense, easier to bear [music] because it wasn't mine. Until I found to scratch myself. Wait, that's me. How long have I been gone? And I abandoned her. What have I done? Why did I do that? Why did I do that? You're awake.

1:25:13 Our daughter, is she okay? She is angry at you. But she's okay. I don't know why I left. I I wrecked our life. Yes, you did. But I'm [music] still here and we still have time.

1:26:00 [music] [music] I know you have the same power. You wouldn't be here otherwise. How long have you been living inside [music] other people's lives? Get out of my head. It's [music] never too late for yours. [music] Wow. Powerful stuff. That was one of the best messages I've seen in any AI video since we've been this show's happened.

1:26:47 I know, mate. I know the deep the deep messages um on the next video as well. is these two. Um I really want them both his creators uh on the sessions because as I say as soon as we uh can get him comfortable enough with English or maybe actually it could be that one of the people that are watching because we're seeing a new French wave and many of the people watching uh like my buddy here. Yes, Matias Baron very very good at English and French you know he was my translator the whole time we were there basically. Uh or Jeremy, you know, the Shake Festival uh event director or whoever that wants to do sort of like a back and forth uh with with a director because that is just like I say,

1:27:33 probably the most impressive firsttime AI video I've ever seen to date with a a really deep message and really incredible storytelling. Yeah, beyond ingenious indeed. Um, it, as I said, when when you open a film festival with that and announcing that this is the guy's first AI film, I was just like, I'm in, you know, everything else everything else after was a bonus generally because that was something I'd never seen before, which I was wondering that, you know, would I see anything there that I'd never seen before. We watched so much on the show and that was that was one that just completely fell under the radar because it was the first of its kind and he I don't think he posted it to social media. He created it for the award as far as I get. Um or maybe he did create it for some other purpose but you know essentially it only be it was on

1:28:26 Vimeo I found it so I didn't even find it on LinkedIn or YouTube or anywhere like that. So I wonder what he thinks of AI videos now. I wonder if he's like, "Oh, this is actually way better than I thought it was." I wonder if that's what he's thinking to himself. Well, whatever. He just made one of the most impressive things. So whether he struggled to on board or whether he managed to fluently on board, we don't know. Maybe we'll find out. Uh I I wonder what others think though, you know, that are seeing that and are exactly in his shoes, you know, 20 years plus directors that are like, "Whoa, you can do that with AI now?" you know, and and they're going to go, that's more like the stuff I want to make than the slop that makes my algorithm in social media, you know. Yeah. So, we'll see. We'll see. Hopefully, we can surface that stuff.

Gossip Goblin's Happy Ending

1:29:13 But the next one, um, actually, I did manage to download, you remember I said that gossip goblin short. Uh, it's going to be Yeah, I managed to get it. It's in vertical. And this is just a YouTube short. I never watch YouTube shorts. I told him this. I was like, I accidentally clicked YouTube shorts when I opened up my phone and yours was the first one that popped up and it's it's probably the best AI YouTube short I've ever seen. And then he told me it's his worst performing. And I was like, well, I'm not having that. So, we're definitely going to show it on the show, you know. So, this is just, you know what I told him? I said this is the culmination of you doing just hundreds if not thousands of these you know short form storytelling where you're able to convey such a deep narrative in about 3 minutes in vertical form.

1:30:03 This really is his specialty. So let's check it out. Happy ending. [crying] Uh-huh. [music] [ __ ] up.

1:30:54 [music] [music] Oi oi. Look at this. Who's walking who? Is that your dad, mate? A bloody clonker. [laughter] Oh, this thing. It's just a nasty old clanker. [music] Come on, lad.

1:31:41 Run. [music] Sorry, [singing] mate. Spare a few credits for [music] a bite, mate. Oi, you want me to smash [music] you? Bring it on, mate.

1:32:36 [music] There you go. [music] [music] [music] Wow. God. It's just crazy, isn't it? like a whole human life like that from baby to just thinking about like how finite the human life is compared to a robot like all of it. I've never felt so sorry for a robot in my life you know like when I told when I watched that I was like what a great dad it was how

1:33:24 patient it was. What a waste of a human life it did. How short a human life is. Oh god it got me thinking all sorts of things. Yeah I thought that was really good story. Really good storytelling. I thought that um like the other story there was it was a good message to it, you know, it was what peer pressure does, you know, and then just by peer pressure going the wrong the wrong route and then but your but your parent is always going to be there. And that's what I thought was really um and as people's been saying in the chat, it's an intense Tuesday today. Yeah, it is Tuesday. Paul doesn't do the do the show. [laughter] Oh, you're so right. But there was some really good. So he's and you said something right before that. You said and I had to write this down. You said

Are algorithms burying the best storytelling?

1:34:11 he's doing the stuff that he wants to do, not the AI slop because of the a because of the algorithm. And unfortunately as as the way social media works, we do stuff for the algorithm and things like that just doesn't get seen which is such a shame. And this is the thing. He said it's his least loved short and I said it's my most favorite. And this is the thing is like if algorithms aren't showing us what we portray to be the best storytelling then it's not doing its job correctly is it? It's just promoting things which are more you know appeasing to a wider audience or algorithmically preferable. You know it's just to service you more ads. Yeah. But then again you then you got to think to yourself what is its job? You know maybe that is the job of the algorithm. So it is doing the job. It's just not doing the job that is beneficial to the end user.

1:35:02 It's more of course that's what it is ultimately it's to serve you more ads and if it can make you dwell more by peing your curiosity whether that be good or bad it will do that in order to keep you you know engaged it's just an engagement thing you know it's just fully how do we capture engagement but yeah it's going to be an intense Tuesday as Andrew said when I get to pick we've got people dropping in now let's go good old stuff we got brand coming in bringing it Um, loving it. And as I said, I got I was so happy to see Matis. I actually saw him in San Francisco at Upscale and then I was like, "Oh, this is in your backyard." Apparently not. You know, he's still 100 kilometers away in France or something like that. But, you know, it's uh it's the same as someone saying, "Oh, you're going to drop into London." It's like, "Yeah, no, mate.

1:35:52 I'm 4 hours train like in Manchester." [laughter] [gasps] I remember my friend from America, she goes, "Oh, I'm coming to Europe. Should we meet?" And I was like, "Where you going?" She goes, "Denmark." I was like, "It's nowhere near me. [laughter] You might as well be in America, as far as I'm concerned." [laughter] Oh, it's hilarious. Oh, my Australian friends always used to go, "Oh, it's only like a 2hour plane to get to all of Europe. How you guys must just go every weekend, don't you?" And I'm like, "Some of my friends have never left the UK." Like, ever left the UK? No, we're not just hopping into over to Europe. It's not just that easy. Yeah, I know some people that's not even left their burough in the UK. So, yeah, it's crazy. Someone says the audio is way out of sync.

1:36:38 I'm not sure. Oh, it may be because of the flagging earlier. I'm not sure, but that's coming from LinkedIn, so I'm not sure. Oh, sorry Dave. If you're having issues, it may be because we got a temporary strike earlier for a music video that didn't check. Um, so sorry if you're experiencing anything like that. Yeah. So, I've just checked on my laptop. It's in in sync and definitely on syncing YouTube. I'm just checking now. It's in sync in YouTube. So, it might be a LinkedIn thing. Yeah. Ah, my bad. Oh, it might it might be just Dave. So, I'm going to just check on LinkedIn. Yeah. Cool. But, um yeah, we could play the other video. Let's play the other one. Yes. Let's uh it's going to be our last one. And um this is probably one of the deepest messages I've ever seen in a music video.

A Message for the Butterfly, the Grand Prix winner

1:37:31 [laughter] So if you if you thought that the first ones were intense Tuesdays, guys, strap in because this one gets into the real existential thoughts and who are we and what makes us and all of the fundamental stuff, but it's all in a beautiful analogy of butterflies and things like this. As I said, Mark is just he's so incredible that I think he's probably one of the most awarded AI directors in the space that we haven't had on Andrew. He's like, "Okay." um I've se I've seen him win like at least half a dozen AI awards um for individual things he's done, not the same thing over and over again. So, this one we'll have to find out more about when we get on in a creative session. And it's called a message for the butterfly.

1:38:19 And this, as I said, won the Grand Prix. said, the overall uh best video competition. [music] Imagine waking up as a caterpillar and all you want is to crawl. [music] So you learn surface, leaf, edge, color near your mouth. This is food. This is danger. And you encode all this into your caterpillar body [music]

1:39:04 until one day your body suddenly begins to to [music] break apart. You don't know it yet, but you're collapsing into the wet [music] chaos of the cryalis where your physical representation starts losing all authority. [music] Your tissues, they break down. Your map [music] is taken away from the territory. You just dissolve into soft information, a soup of horror inside a sealed living chamber. But from that crisis, a new thing begins to assemble itself.

1:39:55 [music] A body born for air, for distance, for flowers, wind, mating, height. And [music] yet your memory somehow survives this massive refactoring. The butterfly, it still carries what the caterpillar learned. It's just the butterfly doesn't [music] want the same things. It doesn't need to know about the leaves, the ground, the colors of the food. Your message has arrived [music] in the wrong body.

1:40:41 So why does the butterfly uh still remember what the caterpillar learned? A wise man once dreamed he was a butterfly. Then he woke wondering whether he was a man who had dreamed of being a butterfly or a butterfly. Now dreaming he was a man. [music] But maybe the deeper question is transfer. What did [music] the butterfly remember of the philosopher? His house. Just [music] another irrelevant geometry.

1:41:28 His books [music] useless, his arguments just noise [music] from another mind. All caterpillar data. And yet [music] the butterfly received something. Not the man, not uh his life, but the [music] shock. The shock of having once been different. A disturbance in its certainty. A tiny glitch [music] in the boundary between wing and world. A permission to become unrecognizable. Maybe the [music] dream was the chrysalis all along and waking was not return but reassembly. The [music] moment another body opened its eyes.

1:42:24 As a species, you want to to persist. But if you remain the same, you eventually die out. You take on new tools, new behaviors, new ways of thinking. But if you [music] change so dramatically and survive, then you're not the same thing anymore. So once again, you're you're gone. And this is the paradox. How do you survive while becoming something that no longer counts as [music] you?

1:43:09 So what if memory is not really about the past? What if memory [music] is a survival strategy, a message addressed [music] to a creature you have not yet become? You press signals into matter and hope someone later can can decode them [music] because this may be the only way to survive. your own replacement. [music] So maybe this is what we mean by being human.

1:43:59 Not a stable form, but this act, [music] this stubborn, unreasonable act of [music] pressing something into the dissolving mass and saying, "Carry this. Carry this through whatever you become. We do not know what it will mean to you. We do not [music] know if you will find a use for it. We do not know if you will still call yourself by the name we use [music] now. But when you wake in whatever [music] configuration waits beyond us,

1:44:50 make it useful. [music] Make it make sense. This is a message for the butterfly from [music] the creature that feels itself fading and sends the signal anyway. [music] The message will arrive in the wrong body. It does not say remember me. It says [music] make me worth having been. [music] [music]

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Wrap-up and upcoming Creator Sessions

1:46:28 Brilliant stuff. And as I said guys, it was going to end on a very deep level. Not as intense, but made you think. Makes you very, very think. How deep is that? Just beautiful storytelling. Another masterpiece as Glenn is saying. Um, I saw Kareem join the chat late as well. Andrew has had to leave us. Uh, what up? What up, guys? So, good to be back. I'll be back again next week, I think. Um, I think that Andrew said he's in London tomorrow. So, if you're in London, uh, let us know. I may well be uh, dropping by at some point at in the future. And look out for more creator sessions. Obviously, suggest to us the ones that you think are worthy of a crater session as well.

1:47:17 Um, so many of you guys we want to have on in the future as well. Thank you so much for watching as always and sorry for the temporary blip that we had earlier on in the stream. Entirely my fault and Paul will definitely be uh giving me some problems with that later. Hopefully I haven't done anything to jack up the YouTube monetization or anything too badly. Um, but yeah, always, you know, subscribe to our newsletter, luma.com/theai live show, and come visit our new website, the ailive show.com, where you can submit your work and watch all of the previous episodes and all of that jazz. Thank you so much for another great show. Thank you, Bran, for joining in. Really appreciate it.

1:48:03 I see you coming in as well, my brother. really appreciate it. Walking, I'm so bad at pronouncing you guys names, by the way. I always laugh. I was calling [laughter] uh my French friends completely the wrong thing and I was getting laughed at all the time at Shake, which is uh I guess it's a trait that I've got ongoing. But yeah, thanks Dave for holding in as well with the audio issues that we had earlier. Temporary blip in the stream. Hopefully uh we're all back and running again. It seemed that the stream refixed itself somehow. I don't know. Uh after that, I thought we would have just been taken down and I wasn't sure that we were going to appear live again. So, really happy that it all worked out in the end. And yes, we'll see you all again in a future Tuesday and Wednesday.

1:48:49 Wednesday being the creator sessions, Tuesday being the main show. So, submit your videos for the main show and suggest people for the creator sessions that you think you're a very special person to have on anywhere in the world. Um, as I said earlier, ideally if they can speak English, but maybe not even that. We might be able to find some translator that or some way of having them on the show without English having to be something that has to be a priority. So, yeah, whatever we can do to bring the best in the world. And thank you so much for the birthday messages to both me and Andrew both in the same week. Yeah, we're early October, guys. It's going to be interesting. Just hopefully have a Yeah, 21 again, I wish. I wish. [laughter] All right, guys. I will see you all again in

1:49:38 the future.