Transcript: Formula E × Google Cloud Creator Challenge: Trailer Premiere + New Uncanny Harry

Why is Mary co-hosting AI LIVE this week?

0:07 [music] Hey, hey, we [music] are back. And uh apologies, Mary is going to be joining us very shortly. I sent her the link to join very late. It's been a bit of a scramble this week because we've got no Andrew, no Paul with us. Uh, but let me know if you're hearing us live. Um, I'm always nervous about this because I'm soloing it this week. So, I'm not quite sure if I'm live on LinkedIn and YouTube. So, let me know in the comments if you see us live. I see Mary dropping into the green room. There she is. Oh my god. And we are here. Can we hear you? I can't hear you yet.

0:57 Um, maybe it's me. Let me know in the chat if anyone else. Yes, I hear you now. Brilliant. The mute function. Oh, that was actually one of the best technical onboards we've had so far. Honestly, quick and easy. So nice to have you join us. Thank you so much for filling in. Oh, the best commenter on the show. It just goes to show, right? If you if you really love this show and you're across every somehow. Exactly. Right. Like what what is the weather like where you're tuning in from? I'm going to do the whole Andrew thing. Like how how have you been? What's your weather looking like? You know, the weather has shifted to fall in Canada. [music] Uh where I am is kind of right in the belly button of Canada. I'm in Manitoba and it's really humid. It's definitely going into uh the last few days of of summer.

1:46 So, oh wow, catching a lot of frogs with my girl. Yeah, my little girls. So, I think you're much more on par with the UK then because we're about the same, you know, a lot more water here, a lot more rainfall. Andrew is still telling me it's 30 plus degrees in Spain, so they're definitely not out of their summer yet. I know. So, good thing. Yeah, you guys don't really have the in the infrastructure to support the weather, though. No, that's it. We really don't keep the global storm. And you do, right? Like you have seasons like you have heavy snow and you have really hot summers as well. I was really shocked by how seasonal Canada actually is. Oh yeah, we get pretty crisp pretty quick. Yeah, we could uh all learn a lot, you know, from dealing with the stuff that you deal with honestly in the next few years.

2:32 Oh, look, we've got people good friends the show. Miriam's tuning in. Whiskey Woven's tuning in from Berlin. Loving it. We've got Anthony tuning in from LinkedIn. We've got Robert tuning in from Germany. I didn't even ask. I should have said, "Whereabouts in the world are you all tuning in from?" I've completely lost it this week. Uh, also let us know what your interest in AI is. We've got tons of stuff to talk about. This is the regular show. Um, so we're the last two Tuesdays has been an X-P prize takeover if you haven't been following the show. So that's a specific uh competition that was run with a very very big prize and um congrats to all of those that we showed in the original show because so many of them are still in the top 25 which is honestly incredible news

3:22 and uh lots of the dreamers I know that entered from the real dream chat still in the top 25. It's really awesome to see. So, we'll keep following that and as and when we've got news about, you know, top 10 and stuff like that, we'll let [music] people know and then maybe have special interviews with some of the winners and stuff like that. But yeah, how incredible. And now we've got like two to three weeks of the regular show that we haven't been doing at all. So, no spec ads, no short films, no music videos. It's all really been X-P prize entries. And so, yeah, if you've seen some stuff in the last few weeks, we're also open to suggestions this week in the comments. So, leave us some links to stuff that you'd like to see. I have cured a bunch of stuff, but Mary is truly doing Andrew's role, and I've asked her not to watch the things, and

4:08 I've only sent her the links very uh recently to the show going live. So, it's going to be a real reaction from Mary, which is so cool to see. And yes, it's awesome. I don't know what you've been seeing in your algorithm this week, Mary, but it's just been astra for me. Um, it's kind of mad all the use cases, how people are using it, you know, people comparing it to Fable and Claude and stuff like that. What have you seen in terms of Astra? It's more I pay attention more to the storytelling. A lot of people are picking up the same [clears throat] story line and it's either some sort of catastrophic event where they're having to be have this hero moment or you know not everybody's getting a spider bite and going nextgen with themselves but uh yeah it's a lot of storytelling shift in the same channel where they're having to hey Anita they uh yeah

5:00 they're having to uh just pay attention to what everybody else is doing. That's the one thing that I I don't know. So, it doesn't become all the same tone, but I recognize that the last the last video that we were reviewing, a lot of the entries for the the contests were very similar to each other. Definitely. Yes. We got into that like how to avoid cliches part, didn't we? And it was very hard, you know, and now it's honestly good that we've got all entries again. So there's going to be a totally different judging to all of it because in the last few weeks it really was like okay that would have been a good regular show video but against these other ones and in regards to the competition it's really that there's some when Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Um so two things I see my buddy Blacklight as well.

5:47 Happy birthday to Blacklight for yesterday. Oh my god. Happy birthday. Yeah exactly. another awesome creative session that we had and in that episode we were talking a lot about uh world models and actually the first piece of news is something that uh tangentally works with that world models idea. This one I've seen is called Atlas world model and what we're going to be doing over the next coming weeks is sort of showcasing all of the foundational world models that we've got to see. So Google's one, Runway's one, everybody else that's building one because there's different ways of tackling them. And so let's check out as Atlas and see what we think to this one. [music] [music]

Atlas from World Labs: camera control and relighting in a generated 3D world

6:44 [music] Oh, [music] [music] you Heat. Heat. [music] [music] [music] [music]

7:36 [music] Wow. So, World Labs, it's uh not one that we've seen a lot from actually. And yeah, camera control seems to be the really specific nature of that world model building thing. I.e. taking like a normal input image like a JPEG or something and then being able to fly around camera controls in a 3D like environment. How cool, huh? That was insane. I really appreciated how they were uh to adjust the lighting in those shots. That's insane. I know. That's absolutely how far we've come this program.

8:26 Exactly. Yeah. Like truly like I don't even think if you' have showed that to us in January of this year we'd have been going wow that seems like far ahead in the future you know like mockup videos or something again it's like how accurate is that demonstration to the real world application of using that world model building um is it cherrypicked examples are are they actually real world examples because if they are they look incredible you know so it's just about when can we use it how can we use it build our own worlds on But yeah, it's amazing to see that sort of tech in the middle of like or the end now I suppose like of this year kind of the the a lot of the the prompts and uh enhancements and hacks that a lot of people have put into are becoming those tools that are just like out of the box now.

9:15 So yeah, it takes a lot of the effort out of the beginners similar to myself to be able to just roll in and say, "Hey, I want this." And then you got a buyer, right? Exactly. And as Miriam says, this Gian splat idea and teasing stuff like this is so cool and it's really like this is some Star Trek stuff. Like when I see Gausian splats, I'm like that doesn't look like it should be real. Or you can 3D map a real world environment like this in some sort of data point cloud space which is navigable somehow in in it's kind of just nuts that that's going to like merge the sort of world building, the Gaussian splats, the AI. Eight generations. It's all going to merge. VR, AR, all of this stuff is going to merge as well.

10:01 I see Dimmitri is joining us. Thank you so much for joining us from LinkedIn. If you're a new user, check us out each week. We are very excited to be joined by one of our very best uh commenters and show people. How do I even describe you? Like, you're just you're a legend of the show, Mary. [laughter] I am a longtime commenter and a first time co-host [laughter] with that and such an awesome fill in too and it was so kind of you to write to me the way you did saying that you knew Andrew was away this week and Paul is too incidentally people asking Paul is not in the background he's also on holiday this week although Andrew did actually get a last minute booking I hear so I really hope that goes well and uh he is flying back tonight to be here for Cavan's episode tomorrow I believe but yeah last minute just just coming in.

10:50 It's so awesome to drag you in and you know the show so well as well which is so awesome because that's my biggest worry is having to explain the format to anyone you know it just feels like we're hanged by Alex as well in uh about 45 minutes or so from Bionic Awards. Um he's got an awesome showcase video that he managed to get to us last minute as well. So excited to see your feedback on that. Um now there's a very famous video going around at the moment for the Astra launch. Uh OpenAI has been pushing it everywhere obviously since it has launched and it first launched to only a few sort of hand people. You know it was sort of hand selected and tested and now it's getting wider and wider sort of rollouts.

Ari Kuschnir's Astra launch spoof

11:35 [clears throat] But what I had seen, and I'd love to see your reaction to this one, is that Ari Kushner, who is someone that I've been talking to a while now, he sort of like did this spoof video on the launch of Astra, and I thought this was hilarious. So, let's start the show off with a spoof Astra video. Do you like making [music] things, being creative, solving problems, getting good at something? Well, now you don't have to. Introducing Nater. [music] Anything you can do, Nater can do for you instantly. I just had an [music] inspiration for a new song. It's like, here's the song. I went with the bridge you were about to think of. [music] It knows you better than you know yourself.

12:24 So, let it do you. Can you write a book I would write? Sure thing. Writing now. Can you make a movie about all the things I didn't [music] do with Lydia? Of course, Harold. Rendering now. My boss's AI [music] assistant sent a list. Can you do it and send it back to his AI assistant? Yep. Done. Also, we're a little hungry. Mom, take care of all of my kids needs. Of course. I'll handle bedtime. Timmy is not doing well in school. [music] Well, can you fix it? Take me on a journey. Happy to. Doing now. You'll feel one with everything in [music] about 4 seconds. I'll dim the light. It's so much more intelligent than you. Let's face it. You'll never catch up, so give in.

13:14 This. No, no, no. Y [music] [laughter] the [ __ ] was that? [gasps] Oh, that made me [laughter] love. When I saw that in my feed, I was just like, "Oh my god, that is hilarious."

14:01 And if you've seen the actual launch video, you'll know exactly why that's so funny. If you haven't, go and watch the launch video and see sort of like, you know, its whole parody and take on the initial launch video. It's kind of hilarious and genius unhinged. Exactly. Um, and I thought a bit of a swerveball to sort of open up the show like that. We'd usually leave something like that to the end of the show, but it's everyone's talking about it right now. Astra, Astra, Astra. Now, as with all these things, I think because the rollout's been the way it has, we're going to have to wait at least a Fortnite to see really, really good use case videos that are worth showcasing. I know my buddy Rock's working on some right now in the background. And so, we'll probably wait for that, but I thought open up with the spoof. Why not?

14:47 Like, [laughter] it's the big news of everyone's talking about at the moment. But yeah, if you guys have seen any other news that's made your AI feed this week that's worth talking about, especially when it comes to generative AI creative platforms, LLMs are so interesting to us, but you know, we really are interested in the image, music, uh video platforms mostly. Um, but yeah, it's been fascinating sort of week to catch up on all of that. And as with always with the show, um, we'll now enter into the ads section, which is how we open up. We usually do spec ads and real ads. And so I've got show notes on both of those. Again, just to remind you, this is going to be uh Mary's real reaction. And I'll do my best because I'm moderating and hosting today to try and put the poll up at the same time.

15:34 But some of these ads are really, really short, so I'm going to have to be typing very quickly to make the poll in the background whilst we do it. Um, this first one though, I thought was very, very fun. And uh it's basically for a protein company. I'm not going to give too much away about this cuz it is the twist of the ad really. Um and I'll give you the notes afterwards. [music] [music]

Spec ad: protein without the bloat

16:20 [music] [music] [music] My protein. Protein without the bloat. So a fun quirky little idea there that popped up again in my timeline randomly that is a spec ad i.e. that is not a client of the person who made it. The person who did make it was uh Devancher Manther who is the co-founder of floating tiger films and it was basically one of those ads where nobody asked for it. He had an idea for a spec ad for that particular protein

17:09 uh company. And basically this the idea of it is that lots of these uh protein companies come with like bloat, you know, and extra stuff that make you feel bloated and the additional extras that you don't necessarily need and that this company didn't. So a fun little sort of way to inflate people. What did you think about it, Mary, whilst I put the poll up? I hate me some bloat. So [laughter] that was that was awesome. I appreciate that. You know, just regular bloating in general, just add protein to it and causing ministr. So I love that. Right. I thought, you know, just a quick little mockup idea. Um, one awesome, two good, three not for me. Create the poll. Start the show. It's one for me. Let's say it's a one.

17:57 Okay. So, if you Oh, I didn't realize that they came with. You see, this is You're catching me out here because Paul would know that the numbers come already in the thing. But yes, vote now. It does look like the poll is working. Danielle's confirmed that with voting. What did you think to that? One, awesome. Two, okay. Three, not for me. I've put good there. It is usually okay. Uh, I thought as an idea, really, really nice. And the way he executed it with a funny little music in the background as well. It's quirky. I thought the idea Yeah, it was quirky and it was sort of like um that end twist in advertising, isn't it? Where it's like why are these guys inflating in the gym? What is this? Like why why are they blowing up like this? Uh and then the sort of reveal at the end. Uh nice nice more could have been done with the idea, I think, truly to make it an extra special one, but it's on the one to two border for me.

18:48 I think in that one um I would say the music really helps. The sort of silly music. Yeah, the jump to them being, you know, full of air and and and all that. I get that, but why are they floating at the end? That's the part that I'd be like, maybe we do something different. They're bowling pins. I don't know. Something that is brilliant. Bowling pins would have been a really nice idea. And Paul would have pointed out that as well, you know, in terms of like just continuity, just pulling off the idea, making it truly seem make logical sense as well, you know, like doesn't have to make perfect math or any type of actual physics, right? And [clears throat] again, I think a good use of AI there, you know, in that CGI would have been an expensive way to have to do that or mock that up.

19:34 And especially as a spec idea is a great way to sort of quickly use AI to make that work. See the brief on it. Exactly. I got an idea. That's the type of thing where you're like, "Oh, I hope a client loves that idea so that they don't need a brief, you know, i.e. We execute this to a better standard or something, but that this is the basic premise is that yeah, some are bloating. We can use inflatable people, yada yada yada." You could sell that idea, I imagine. But yeah, last poll uh votes for people on LinkedIn. We know you're a minute or so behind seeing some last minute poll things come in. So, get your last votes in for LinkedIn and then I will cancel the poll and trying to bring it up next time. I should have really asked Paul about how all this works before he went on holiday, [laughter]

20:20 but uh yeah. Now, if I should I hide or stop pole? Which which one do you think's the answer here? If stopp I think stopp. Yeah. Yep. It looks like that's the way Paul sort of closes it out. Okay. Oh, and I can resume as well. I just have to edit that up and make it nice. So awesome. Okay. Not for me. Hi Jamie. I see you in the comments. This I blame you by the way. You started that comment way back when saying put Mary on the show. Oh, we've got an absolute legend tuning in as well. my buddy Tech Hala who who who often goes uh sort of like unseen on his LinkedIn profile because

21:07 they don't know this is his real name but uh that's hilarious. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's why he stopped going to the gym. [laughter] Hilarious. Okay, it's decided to show the new poll already. Let's hide that. Okay, still getting used to this, everybody. There he is. You can see him now on YouTube. That's hilarious. [laughter] Oh man, brilliant. You're not the only boomer amongst us, mate. Don't you worry. Don't you worry. I'm really struggling this week. But um let's keep going. So the next one I wanted to show has a really fun backstory. So this guy, he is the creative director at a company called Framer AI.

Framer's abandoned dancing dads ad

21:53 Now, he put up a LinkedIn post basically stating that not all of his ideas get made into official ads as he's working as the marketing director in house at this AI company basically. But this is one of those sort of fun ideas that got abandoned on the creative table that he just happened to post. And honestly, it's one of the most viral things I've ever seen them do. And it's always the case honestly that a lot of these ideas that get so this is a very quick uh idea that um I saw in post and let's check it out. The world may not be ready for your specific thing but framer is. [music] Build your thing at framer.com.

22:41 [music] Dancing dads. Brilliant, huh? I love it. Even the shirt toss at the end. Like, you know, they're not hanging up their clothes when they come home. They're just dossing them, right? Exactly. So, the poll is now open and it looks cleaned up now. So, what did you think to that one very, very short spec ad? And we have to call it a spec ad even though he's working as the official marketing director of Framer because they didn't run it as an official ad. So, this really is one of those abandoned sort of spec ads even though it's for his own company. So, I really really like that one. Oh, the poll's not working in this one for some reason. Um, you had to resume. Yeah, maybe res. Let me try again.

23:26 Uh, vote again, guys. See if we can get some more votes coming in and if the poll starts going up. You're right. I think resume might have been the case, but yeah, people seem to have liked that one. Already seeing ones coming into the chat again. Just one of those fun little ideas that I found and I was like, why why didn't they run with that? That's brilliant. You know, like low hanging fruit. Like it's it's a good one. Exactly. And and and context always matters with ads, right? Like if that was a pre-roll YouTube ad, that would be perfect length. The perfect sort of like, you know, showcase of what's fun about the brand and its marketing and its ability cuz I thought of it almost like um a sort of Wix or a Squarespace sort of type thing, you know, where it's like, you know, average people that don't know how to make websites can use this tool and and yada yada.

24:16 Very friendly and open. And so yeah, it really fit the sort of dynamic of that type of ad that I'd like to see as well from a company like that that shows that they're a friendly, fun brand as well. Mhm. Yeah. So yeah, lots of votes coming in for that one. Coming in as one. Demetrius gives it the nice. Loving it. So yeah, glad I picked those two as the ads to show this week. Um, now the only other spec ad that we had uh came in the form of a Christmas ad potentially. Um, this is if you know and I don't know how big Dreams is. Is Dreams in Canada as a as a bed company or anything like that or is it a UK thing? I'm not really sure. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. Okay. So, it's not like Bed Bath and Beyond and it's everywhere type, you know, giant thing.

Spec ad: Dreams

25:06 So, imagine this if you're in a part of the world that's never heard of Dreams. Uh they're essentially like a giant UK bed retailer store. And again, this person does not work for uh Dreams. This is a complete spec ad. Actually, he works as the head of innovation for Steven Bartlett's podcast. If you know that diary of his CEO, this guy and um he is also an AI creative obviously in innovation. and he's generating with AI and and sort of using those tools to see what's capable in the market. And I saw this one catch my eye in the feed. Um, and I really liked it. So, let's check it out. [music] [music]

26:00 [music] [music] fun little character there and and a nice sort of use of AI again. You know what I mean? It felt like um you're not trying to displace humans. You're using an anthropomorphic sort of character. We're not even anthropomorphic. It's just sort of doing humanlike things, I guess. Like it still does look like, you know, the animal. But yeah. Um, let me get the the poll up for that one, guys. Um, I don't know about that one. For me though, like it didn't for for somebody who I mean I used to work in the furniture industry and that one I I mean I wasn't overly aware of different mattress providers in the back day, but

26:50 um if I didn't know if you didn't tell me it was a mattress thing, I don't think I would have got it. Fair enough. Again, that's a really good criticism of that is like, you know, not that it wasn't well made, it just didn't speak like if it was a mattress brand. Exactly. solving what the outcome would be. And that's actually a very good point because like a lot of UK brands do do this type of thing where it is sort of like a UK local thing and it doesn't necessarily translate internationally. A lot more countries are very literal about like right now our biggest insurance is given to us by a mongoose you know or a mircat sorry you know and um these sort of anthropomorphic characters or we're just so used to in British television that we forget that it's not a thing that the world experiences

Do British brand mascots translate abroad?

27:37 you know [laughter] well I've I've really screwed up on the poll there but I can see your votes coming in. Um a few twos are are one on that one. Yes. No geckos. Exactly. Yes. Uh, is gecko a mobile thing? Is uh we we have a gecko insurance fellow here. Gecko. Oh my god, that's hilarious. Yeah. Oh, that's funny, huh? So, yeah, I agree though. I think that didn't translate until the last sort of frames. And then there's this classic thing in advertising actually. Have you ever seen the cabri gorilla sort of drumming thing where it's all purple and then suddenly it's like oh this is a cabri ad you know and that sort of thing becomes like a legendary award-winning thing but it's so tasteful you know

28:27 like it's hard to make it like that level of uh brand awareness even though it hasn't got a direct association you know it's just the purple is so iconic as a color you know and things like that where dreams again is not an internationally known you know, thing and that hamster didn't represent it necessarily. So, you're right. It doesn't really translate in the same way. It did tell me that Yeah, it did tell me that, you know, the mouse was suffering and it didn't have a good spot to sleep and a cat's butt isn't a good spot for it either. Piano in a piano is not a good spot either. Like, I mean, it told a story. It just may not have been the one I picked up on right away. But that's so true. And very, very fair criticism. Yeah. And last week actually people were champing the X-P prize criticism.

Building in the open and improving one skill at a time

29:16 I was so happy. We had so many of the directors tuning in. Obviously I wanted to be very careful with what I was saying but obviously trying to help them to improve what they were doing and they really champed it. I was so happy and you know like oh what a mature way to receive this feedback from a live audience. And even then some of them were still picked for the top 25 you know uh which is really really kudos [clears throat] to those guys. Yeah. really really good. Elliot specifically, you know, he even did a behind the scenes saying how this was his first hybrid production. He was doing a real shoot in LA with real actors and then he had like a hybrid set. He really was inventing it as he was going along and being so honest and transparent about that. Building in the open is so wild. I love it. That's Diane. I'm a huge fan of Afro.

30:05 Oh my gosh, that she gave me the kick in the ass to really send you that message to say, "Hey, I can put I can come and help you." I [laughter] am so happy that we're getting her on for a creative session and her building in public recently with the minute extensions of her film have been awesome. I said, "This is such a cool concept, you know, like do you build like that?" And even the um the thing I told her in private, actually maybe in the group chat or no, it probably wasn't in private. It was like the idea of her improving her sound design is actually a very good thing to do too. You know, it's not just creating for creation's sake. It is with a purpose to improve one specific skill set. So then others that are trying to emulate this, you know, have that idea in mind, that goal in mind, whether it's color grading, sound design, or whatever you sort of pick,

30:53 editing, you know, try and improve that skill set. Not just, you know, make one minute at a time for that purpose. they should always have like an underlying like goal to improve one specific thing which you know Diane really nailed really with the sound design stuff and I was like great you know actually it's one of the hardest things in AI to improve your sound design alongside the visuals and keep it all in tandem because it's really the bit that can throw you off right when it's not done properly. So yeah, very very smart. So, this next one that we're going to watch, um, is probably the last one that we're going to do in this sort of category, and it is a real ad. Um, it was made in collaboration between Matt Zayn and the superheroes

Made with Lenovo: the history of football

31:40 crew, and I believe it's in collaboration with Lenovo, the laptops provider, and they also do AI and stuff. So, this series is called Made with Lenovo, which basically showcases all stuff that's made with their tech. So, with all of that in mind, let's check it out. First ones played for the gods. Yeah. Stakes were mad like no chill whatsoever. Next man's creative referees wrote down rules like a lot of them, bro. Rules and rules and rules. than the Greeks, bro. They loved it so much they put it on their graves. Wasn't for that. [music] They' have forgot their game forever. Next lot they went hard like, "No mercy, bro."

32:29 That was their whole thing, honestly. Then it was whole towns versus whole towns on miles of mud. Them peasants could ball, bro. Their kings were shook. Gizers tried to ban it. Yeah. Their man's put it in silk, made it pa. Then a bit later, a bunch of them sat in a room and named it FOOTBALL NAME. BOLLOCK TO THE LOT OF YOU. Soon after half their planet watched, half a planet watching a ball. Thousand years later, THEY WERE STILL WATCHING, STILL KICKING IT. Same rules too, basically. Well, there was no rules in it. 10,000 years later they forgot the word football

33:14 started calling it varopa [music] better name honestly 100,000 years later the shell ones picked it up n the tall ones with the roots pitch wasn't grasped by then it was thr full thrill nothing like full thrill bro million years later you remember the ones with no hands no feet no word for play they picked it up anyway Something always picks it up. Something [music] made them kick the ball. So, what did you think to that? Yeah, that was made a few months ago to give some context for about that.

33:59 Um, so definitely Seance 2.5 was not out and it was probably on the border of when Cance 2 was actually out just about. So, uh, always got to give that context obviously because it did feel a little bit janky in some areas compared to other videos, but I really sort of liked that one overall. What was your feelings about it? I wasn't too sure what I was watching at the beginning because it looked like Quidditch and soccer and rugby and then it morphed like Okay. And I call it soccer. So, when I it, you know, I always have to default there. And then Yep. What was the what did they end up calling it? The future state. I don't even know honestly. Yeah, it's um it's one of those videos that was so fast that you were like trying to follow along

34:48 all of the stuff that was going on because the visuals and the voice over and the pacing of the editing and everything and you're just trying to keep up with it. But, you know, from a visual point of view, a storytelling thing like that was fun, you know, and and that's the sort of thing that I'm thinking of these things is it's hard to get like a tech company to be fun with stuff like that, you know, and uh I'm just glad to see it. Honestly, I'm just happy to see that that's an official ad, you know, not a spec ad and actually being put through with that sort of brief. And who knows, we'll have to ask Matt Zayn onto the podcast one day, you know, how difficult that was to get through as an idea. Was that the original idea? All of those sorts of things. Um, my buddy Tech Aller is one of the biggest football fans.

35:33 Um, me and him chat football all the time. So, whenever I see stuff like that and Andrew too, you know, he's always looking at the physics of football and stuff like that. And I knew that he would have called out some of the physics [laughter] in which is hilarious. Somebody watches this on replay. I'm sure that's what he'll say. [laughter] But, but I was doing it for the storytelling in this one. You know, I thought the fun voice over and stuff like that. Yeah, I dig it. I'm gonna abandon the polls, guys. I'm just going to [laughter] abandon them because at this point I I know that if I try to add them on, it's just going to start causing more hiccups to the show than it's actually going to be worth it. So, uh, still vote uh in the chat and I'll see your votes. But yeah, we won't get the actual live polls on the screen today. But yes, it's been one of those things. Um, the Premier League started up again and oh my god, it's been chaos.

36:25 Mary, do you follow football at all? Do you care about football? Oh god. Nope. Nope. I'm a hockey girl. Oh, hockey. Tell me more. What is What's your team? Oh, okay. Well, being that I'm from Winnipeg, we kind of lost our team for a period of time, so forgive me for the fans that are actually paying attention right [laughter] now, but I love Pittsburgh. I love uh Boston and I love the Winnipeg Jets. Home team Winnipeg Jets, note without. But when during the lockout and during other periods of time, I just got exposed to other teams and different players and I love the success stories from players going from sports entertainment into business like that. That is a crazy lens to shift to. So yeah, but mostly actually a really interesting thing that I've been following too.

Why is everyone becoming a YouTuber?

37:14 Um the a lot of them become YouTubers now, you know, like full-time content creators and some of them have teams to do it. Some of them are very personal, you know, just with cameras just pointing to themselves. One of the most crazy ones I saw recently, believe it or not, is might Shyamalan, the director. He's now a YouTuber. What? Like he just made his first two YouTube Yeah. His first ever two YouTube videos, I believe, are up now. And it's very uh yeah, it's very very cool to see this transition of, as you say, sports stars, movie directors, everyone's becoming a YouTuber in some degree or another. And it's whether or not they share their personal life. You know, some sports stars do behind the scenes like Eric Harrling

37:59 Harland and people like that. They're sort of funny to camera showing you, you know, what it's like to live his life and the meals and the massages and the, you know, the funny moments. And then others like mi Shyamalan are doing it very seriously. He's talking about his diary and how you know the most crazy thing is I love that he during one of his uh shoots 911 happened and he was reminiscing for the first time since that happened his feelings about it by reading his own daily thing in his diary. Now, the craziest thing I wanted to talk about on the show was he is uh absolutely right in that our brains totally make things up in the long term of everything.

What M. Night Shyamalan's diaries reveal about memory

38:47 And what he remembers as scenes that went actually quite fluidly when he looks at his daily notes from being a director. He's like, "Mel Gibson was a nightmare to work with today. We'll be lucky to see the end of this shoot." And then in hindsight, it's one of the most, you know, highly acclaimed shoots of his career. And he remembers it going well because of all of the good press that came along. But when he looks back at his daily diary, living exactly. So, isn't that fascinating to know? You know, all of the people in the grind right now may look back at this as something that was actually really great because of the outcomes that you get rather than the actual reality of it. It's Yeah, it's the marathon high. You're you work so hard to get to the marathon.

39:36 You get there takes I was reading somebody's feedback about finally working towards getting this crazy mile done. And it took four and a half days for them to realize that their body actually did it and that they can be proud of themselves and they wanted to do it again. That's wild. That's so wild. And this is why you're the best commentary swinger is is the marathon high. You nailed it in two words. It's literally that's what it is. It's like and your brain can fill in gaps whereby you think it happened this way or that way and actually it's not even very accurate. Um, but keeping a daily journal is something that Albert talked about in his creative session. You know, actually documenting every single piece of everything he's making so that he can get copyright uh claims for it and stuff, which I think is something that we need to

Should creators document everything they make?

40:24 yes, we need to take into practice. And I think agents and, you know, looping this back into Astra and Claude and Fable are the way to do that without going crazy and spending 90% of your day like logging stuff, you know. So, um, those of you that are interested, I think we're going to look at doing a session with those guys about how to log everything in your day so that you don't have to spend so much of your day doing it because clearly they've vioded their own tools to do exactly that. Uh, but not many people are doing that yet. So, let us know in the comments if you're interested in something like that or Yes. The next one I Sorry. Jimmy wants to lock Jimmy wants to lock him down and make some films.

41:10 [laughter] I do agree with that, Jimmy. Um, human rights with Yeah. [laughter] And I think I think it's kind of fascinating because the talk of the time right now is Christopher Nolan uh because of the Odyssey obviously and famously he doesn't even have a mobile phone or any connection to the internet you know and then on the other end of the spectrum we're seeing people like Might Shyamalan who are coming out as YouTubers with you know a completely opposite sort of like spectrum what I'm going to do with this you know it's kind of fascinating to see that honestly I'm going to I'm going to break us up though with a fun little interlude.

Mark Isle's MiniMax H3 music video

41:55 Um I was going to save some of the music videos to the end, but I've remembered that we've got Alex coming on the show in 15 minutes and um as we're going between the sort of heavy sort of films that we're going to be watching afterwards with some of them are quite quite long. We're going to be watching snippets of them and a lot of them are 25 minutes long and we've taken sort of five minute excerpts and stuff from them. But I will break it up with an awesome music video. Now the details for this one that are interesting for people are it was made with Miniax and this is the new H3 model that Miniax are providing and because of its open weights and because of its ability to be downloaded, it can be run totally locally this one without any sort of cloud or uh interaction or any credits or anything like that. Obviously, you need to have a very high-end

42:46 PC to be able to run this with a high-end graphics card, but I think it's fascinating that we're entering a time basically where the uh closed source models and the open- source models are not too far away from one another. Um, which is kind of fascinating in the space. And Mark Isle is probably the person that I've seen being experimenting the best with the lip sync in uh Miniax H3. This is a music video that he made with Mini Mac. So, let's check it out. [music] [music] [music] Yeah. Yeah. Used to count coins, hands full of chain.

43:35 [music] Now it's Chris Bills, B looking strange. Same old hoodie, same old shoes. New mindset, [music] none of money move. Clock in, clock out. Thought they were like buy [music] one check and flip it again. Turn one loss to 20 new win. Money [music] on my mind when I wake up. Money on my mind when I lay down. Same [singing] four walls with a rampage. [music] Same small town, but I run it now. If it ain't about cash, then I ain't about I [music] don't stay around. Say it every day till it stay true. Money on my mind. Yeah. Scroll through that. That screen felt heavy. So long made my hands feel shaky. Learn new skills. [music] Turn clicks into checks. Turn late night plans to direct deposit. Same cheap pen write new contracts. Same old phone, [music] new contact.

44:24 One idea to one more flip. Whole life changed off one tight grip. Money on [music] lay down. Same walls with a page. Say small time but I know if it ain't about cash then [music] I hang up. If it ain't about every day till I stay [music] true. [singing] Mama said save I save and double turn side g turned out of trouble. Same old block but the route [music] brand new. Same old name but the work grew too. My go to the fridge. Every small win like crossing the bridge. Day by day that pile got thick. [music] Same routine, just getting rich quick when I wake up. When I lay down for a while,

45:12 [music] but I run it now. If it ain't about cash and I hang up. If it [music] ain't about growth, I don't stay around. [singing] Say every day to stay true. Money all day through [music] [music] [music] Wow, that was lovely. You know, people really underestimate Miniax, truthfully. Like the lip sync, the overall style, and honestly, I've seen these character sheets and they look dead like the character sheets.

Can open-weights video models run locally?

45:58 It's uh it's very accurate as to, you know, the onboarding of character sheets to your video max. Now, it's just really exciting to see so many different options in the space right now because that one is far cheaper than seed dance 2.5 as well and it is actually free like I said if you can run it locally on your device but not many people obviously will have that upfront capital to be able to buy such a device at this time. It will shrink down and down though over the months and years. In fact, actually, we're going to be doing a future live thing with FAL, who have already optimized it because of its open weights to make it a lot smaller and runnable on a lot smaller device. So, um, let's see basically where the future of that one is. But giving anything open source lets us have it in our hands, which means we can optimize it and do things with it.

46:45 And, you know, it's really exciting for the community to get things like that. Hey, I see Stevie Mack joining and Megan joining in late on and Jimmy's got a bounce traveling. Uh, wow. Cheers for joining in on the road, my man. You're the best. We love you. Dial up internet machine. Philipe has just joined in as well. I just put it into the chat saying, "Yeah, we're live. Come join." So, aloha sweetie as well. Oh, it's fun. And we got Alex joining us in 10 minutes as well. I don't feel so alone with Paul and Andre away. Mary, you're filling in so nicely. This is great. Yay. This is great. This is fun. This is fun. I like hanging with you. Oh, another thing I wanted to show actually. Um, uh, and then we're going to watch something from Uncanny Harry, which is very exciting because we haven't seen anything from him in a while, and

47:38 we know he's been cooking in his little gremlin way that he does. Um, but friend of the show, good friend of the show now, Henry, uh, who was just in one of our creator sessions as well, he showcased to me. Now, this one's going to be a bit strange to watch because it's in vertical. He's made it for Instagram res. Uh, a quick music video. So, it will look strange because obviously we're in a landscape format right now, but Henry has made a music video for the Junkyard King. So, let's check it out. [music] [music] [music] So I check [music] my pulse.

Henry Daubrez's vertical Junkyard King video

48:31 I check my toe. If I'm getting too high, [music] I drag it low. I keep one eye open for the cold heart slip. Cuz [music] the same brave step can turn to a cliff. One step at a time. One step [music] at a time. I trust my fire. I keep it in line. One step at a time. One [music] step at a time. I keep the dark out. I don't [music] make your mind. [music] How fun is that? Cool. And it goes exactly on to what he said in our episode, which is he's trying to build

49:25 like a vertical world that's tangental to his episodes that's in the same world with the same characters, but doing things that don't necessarily affect the episodes that he's building in his 16 by9 long form. So, a music video tangent is a great way to have like a like I loved it when he sent that to me. I was like, brilliant idea and works in your world with your characters. So cool. Yeah, watching the series and then seeing it just kind of split off like that. That's so was awesome. He did such a good job. And then watching him like how all the different files and and how he had it cataloged. It just made me think of all those shots during that vertical of all the different lighting with the guitar flipping. I'm like, "Oh, he has like six different shots for that." Just that alone.

50:12 You remember, right? It was so crazy his timeline and anybody that Exactly. Like even the audio channels were like more than most people's normal channels is what I I commented to him in the episode. I was like, "You're taking this to another level, man." And I love to see it. And what did he say? Like 15 tools he uses in his stack, you know? Yeah. Which is just level. Yeah. Just just casually can do it all. And then Yeah. Like showing us all these Photoshop layers and how that translates to this and how that translates to that. And Techala is another one of those people that just mastered so many things and given workflows to so many people over the years. It's awesome these sorts of people that are willing to showcase how they make it as well. That's the important thing is like um you know you don't have to show all of it obviously but you know giving people a little bit of a leg up they're just getting into the space is what we're trying to do

51:05 especially because we see so many great storytellers that are now just taking AI seriously because of its capabilities. You know we really want them to thrive and we want the best to surface really quickly as well. Um really exciting stuff. I did allude to it though and I'm not gonna sort of spoil the broth here. Uncanny Harry. We have a new piece from him before Alex joins in with us in five minutes. So uh it is a five minute piece. So strap yourselves in. Here be monsters. You go on. I'll catch up. I'm just going to give this one a sweep. Yeah.

HERE BE MONSTERS: new Uncanny Harry

52:12 [sighs and panting] Dog boy shouldn't be here. YOU'RE BREAKING A TOAST. Stay back. I'm warning you. [groaning] [screaming] Yeah, [screaming and groaning]

53:11 Oi, oi, our wondering heroes return. All right, Terry, OPEN UP. IT'S THE BOSS. TERRY, I got a surprise for you from the green market. You didn't? You owe me two quid. Is it issue 122? [music] Blaine versus the Body Snatchers. That's the one. Ah, Danny, you're a prince among men. Get up here for a hot mug of tea and a hug, mate. I'll be up in a bit, but just for the tea. Yeah, take your time, boss. Take your time.

54:00 All right, Dell, you're early, mate. Bloody hell, mate. You had a rough night or something. I thought you were Danny. He's bringing me a copy of year 3000, number 122, the blame one I've been banging on about. There was a trader said he had it. Turned out to be 121, the road cop origin. I've already got two bloody copies. I could have killed him. His tea's cold. So my Sharon right last night she says if you buy one more comic I'm selling you as a slave to the dog boys. And I said Sharon my love what is a man without his passions? And she said she said a man without his passions is a man with money in his pocket.

54:47 Terry she's got me there. She's got me there. Ain't you D? You all right Dell? You've gone all quiet on me. Is everything all right mate? Rough night. Listen, you know you can talk to me about anything, right? Dell, [groaning] GET OFF. GET OFF ME.

55:40 JESUS. A [screaming] [groaning] get off him. What the hell is going on? Dell, stand down. Drop it now, you little [ __ ]

56:34 [music] That was [laughter] awesome. Does it get more um uncanny Harry than that? And Lara's joining us later. Yes, it is Tuesday already. Lara, you are back. It is Tuesday. It has got that uncanny very vibes. Dave, you're absolutely right. It was disgusting. It was hilarious. It was everything you imagine an uncanny Harry aka Ryan Phillips video to be. Uh, so that's what he's been cooking up. It turns out disgusting bugs going in and out of people's noses.

57:21 Lovely. So many little Easter eggs in those from his from different things like the the whiskey like Oh, it was lovely. And I mean the hell tilt at the beginning. I started taking notes after point because there were so many little goofy things that stood out to me. But oh my god, you really are Andrew. You're taking notes and everything. That is brilliant. That's exactly what he does. Well, be honest. I was taking notes this whole time, like even before when I was in the comments. So, like you guys teach me a lot. So, so anyways, but like the the head tilt uh the folk music when it's highly inappropriate. I like he's such a twisted [ __ ] I love that. And uh it almost felt like a folders commercial at one point when they were welcoming the the boss back, right? Like just folders in his cup, fresh cup coffee. And what truly made it feel like uncanny was the echoing of the boots going up the stairs.

58:10 It reminded me of the boat scenes from when the Kraken comes in and stuff. Yeah. Oh, brilliant. You really are like exactly Andrew's level of detail, too, cuz that tiny little details, you know, are the things that he's so good at noticing. And I think it's genius, honestly. And we even talked about that as well in his show, didn't we? About the Easter eggs and continuing this hunt and how all the videos can interconnect. Look who I've just seen drop into the green room, by the way. I've seen a big smile on his face and I'm adding him to the stage. There he is. How are we, Alex? I'm good. Good. How are you? Very good. Ah, you're looking crisp. You're looking audio was good as well. I'm so Oh, this is brilliant. [laughter] Thank you so much. I'm not as crisp as as you, Chris. That's that's

Alex from Bionic Awards joins

58:58 the serious [laughter] hat you've got rocking there. Oh, it's just the freebies, mate. You know how it is. I love rocking the freebies. Exciting that you got this video to me in time, by the way. Uh, it's so cool the video as well. I've been watching it prior to the show. Uh, do you want to tell us more about what we're about to watch? Yes. Yes. Uh, so we're really excited to share this with everybody. Um, it has taken a lot of work to to get this out out the door, but we're really pleased to be uh premiering it with you today. Yes. Exciting. Yeah, I know. So, um, me a glass. I'm getting so excited. I'm almost emotional. [laughter] I love it. Casual sipping is what this show is all about. Don't you worry. I'm always doing it in the background.

Formula E Creators Challenge 2026: trailer world premiere

59:46 So, yeah. I said to Mary before the show, I'm like, I'm going to go grab my three drinks that I know I'm going to need in the next two hours because, you know, that's how the show goes. Yeah, I know exactly how you roll, Mary, my friend. And what Mary [laughter] doesn't know is that, you know, there's a there's a good healthy three or four fingers of rum in that. I'm sure. [laughter] Oh, great secret. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. [laughter] So, um, so this premiere, yeah, the Yes, you chose to premiere with us. Thank you so much for that, by the way. Yeah. So, really excited to be premiering this with you. So, uh, this is the official launch uh, trailer for the Formula E Creators Challenge

1:00:31 2026, which is a global competition that Bionic Awards is collaborating with Google Cloud on. It's a it's a it's a competition for creators all over the world to be able to enter and they they need to make a 60-cond film using Google AI tools. And the really exciting part is that um the the finalists films will be premiered at the IMAX in London, which is the UK's biggest cinema screen. Wow. Which is not something you get offered every day. In fact, it may be the first what time I've ever seen it offered in a AI space. I've never seen anything AI in the IMAX yet, so that's pretty insane. Yeah, we're really excited about it. I mean, it's [clears throat] um certainly in the UK, I don't think there's been anything on the IMAX before. Um yeah, so

1:01:21 taking a temporary hiatus from the likes of Christopher Nolan uh to uh to sort of put your foot on the ball and see something a little bit different. So, which is some of the fantastic work from our AI creators. And there's there's more actually because you don't the the three best uh category winners will also get a uh VIP trip for two to a Formula E race anywhere in the world. Uh which includes places like Miami, Tokyo. Obviously, there's European uh races as well for people who are already based in those locations. And you get $4,000 of um travel uh costs covered as part of that as well for two people. So, it's a pretty uh lux prize. Very much so. And so good to know that it's worldwide entries as well. You know, everybody that are watching in different locations,

1:02:11 you know, don't feel that there's any geoloccation issues to entering this. This is a globally enterable one. Um, some are obviously, you know, locked off to only certain regions can enter and stuff, but this one isn't. So, all entries. Yeah. And also, we've structured it in such a way as to give everybody uh an equal uh chance of winning. So, there's three categories. One for [clears throat] independent creators, one that's for agencies, and one for people who are specifically using Google Flow. So, and in fact, you can actually enter more than one category. So, if you happen to be using Google Flow, you can also enter one of the other two categories as well. So, you get Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Two bytes of the chair. Yeah. And it's a good way to divide it too. If you're a smaller entry versus an agency, they should be, you know, in separate categories, I believe, as well because it is like, you know, a commercial

1:03:04 ent entry versus an individual entry. So, yeah, good to divide them as well. We talk about this a lot, don't we? About the ways to divide like certain categories and stuff and it's fascinating. Um, also if you've got feedback on all of this, you know, let us know in the comments and after the show as well. And it's just so good to see you back. Honestly, the Bionic Awards, we had such a good time last year. People flew from all over Europe, didn't they? And I met many people for the first time like my buddy John and others that I've spoken to almost daily since then, which is really truly amazing. the sort of connections that we made from this event and yeah it's back with a bang as I said on seedly and commented it's so good to see yeah well all over the world in fact I was quite shocked that you know we thought

1:03:51 with bionic well okay maybe some of the UK creators will come but as you said you know there were people from all over Europe but also from Panama Nigeria someone came from Lagos amazing so uh it was really humbling to see sort of dozens of worldclass creators sort of effort to come and be with us and to sort of uh take their moment in spotlight and share their work. And you know, obviously, you know, we can talk a little bit more about Bionic in a minute, but you know, the the main launch of Bionic will be in the autumn. So, this the the Creators Challenge is a kind of a um a sort of spin-off project that we're running with with Google sort of as we sort of gear up towards the full launch of of Bionic in the autumn. Yeah. We're just really excited to be given the opportunity to just do something just that little bit different.

1:04:37 Yeah. And without further ado, let's check out this video. Um, who should we give credits to for the video creation? So, the the video has been made by Bruno Deant, uh, who's based in Paris. Uh, he's really well-known AI creator in his own right. He's done work for Mercedes, for the NFL. He's worked with Google before, obviously. Awesome. We're really, really grateful to him for sort of putting this trailer together for us. He does, I mean, you guys will be the judge of it, but he he does incredible work. and um he was super super kind uh in terms of you know the the his patience in helping us to get this out the door and I'm just really uh excited to see what you guys think of it. This the official trade for the competition. Cool. So as as we alluded to this is the first time it will be seen.

1:05:23 No doubt you'll see it in my feed in the newsletter after this and um if you're following and if you're not already go and connect with Alex and Andy at the Bionic Awards and let's check it out. [music] Heat. Heat. [music]

1:06:19 How cool is that? Look at that. The music setting the mood, getting the claps from Daniela. I loved the pacing. I loved it. And I think the high-res version that you sent me as well really helped, you know, in the crispness of it showing in the live stream. I know that when I've downloaded those types of videos from YouTube in the past because, you know, it's a bit crushed. Really helped, you know, the smoothness of the car driving and everything. The editing though and the transitions, they're really, really nice as well. Ah, exciting. And then pulling up to in front of the IMAX, you know, a nice use case of AI there, like having the car. I was thinking how much to like rent out the streets and get a Formula 1 car to make that happen in the in the millions of pounds would that cost you [laughter] know like kind of crazy isn't it to think about that. We were having that exact conversation actually you know earlier like you know just to sort of even think about making that conversation

1:07:14 [laughter] would have been like you know um just the pre-production alone to talk about it would have taken longer than it took us to actually make that whole film. I know I I should draw attention to the fact though that if people want to enter the competition, it's very important that they go to the micro site mentioned at the end of the film which is genchallenge.com. So you you know it's not the traditional bionicawwards.com website. We've got a special micro site for it and that's where you can read all of the information about how to enter and what the rules are and um you know and also crucially another really important point is that you get as part of this formula E have officially giving everybody the assets for the car to be able to play with. So you get studio shots, you get schematics of the car, you get there's even video of there so you can get real references for how it moves and what it sounds like.

How to enter, and what's in the Gen 4 asset kit

1:08:06 It's all in this Gen 4 asset kit that you uh when you come to the website and register, you can download everything, have a play with it, and you're officially licensed to use that in your films. And even though when you submit them, you'll only be submitting them to us presumably in 1080p, we will upscale them to 4K and so that when they play on the IMAX, they look lush. Wow. That that was really cool. That part of the Bionic Awards last time where you got like an upscaling company involved, didn't you? and they had everything there for our cinema showcase as well. It's such a good idea actually to you know not have the users submit in in the high-res and actually you provide the upscaling and upres for uh the various winners and such. So yeah really really smart and like I said I've never seen anyone have anything involved in the IMAX especially not in the UK

1:08:57 maybe in other countries maybe uh in AI as well. So, such a unique prize as well as great assets to download and play with. Great practice as well. I know that um I talked to Rock about his GenHQ community. He's a big formula fan as well. So, obviously, it's a natural inclination to want to spread this sort of fun brief as well, you know, to creators out there. So, yeah, awesome to see a great creator challenge, a great prize, a great showcase video for it as well. You'll see it, as I say, everywhere this week. It will be on our newsletters, in our posts, all over your feeds. So, yeah, get everyone involved. Also, I think 60 seconds is great because it's not too much ask. You know, for the best creators out there that have got a lot going on that I think 60 seconds is about a good amount to ask.

1:09:47 You know, if you're pushing the three to five minutes like the X-P prize, that's a really big commitment. And, you know, that big teams will spend a lot of time and effort, so you've really got to try really hard. So, I think 60 seconds is a great uh ask time as well. Um, yeah. What's your thoughts on that, Mary? I like how it's structured. It actually feels like every class of, you know, from beginner to heavyweight can actually enter into this thing. So, it it honestly feels approachable. It doesn't feel big and scary. And, uh, yeah, it was a ride. I love the intro video. It's so swaggy. It's worth actually saying though, that not everybody has to make a sort of car a car film like a car like a promo track. We've done it that way because obviously it's the trailer for the for the for the competition itself, but the you only have to have the car on screen for 4 seconds in the your actual film.

Does your entry have to be a car film?

1:10:36 So, you've got free reign to be completely imaginative to tell a completely different type of story. Do what you want, you know, but you know, as long as you know the the car is featured and that it's part of the story and it's anchored around that in some way, then tell, you know, tell the story that you want to tell. And it was really important to us when we were designing the competition that we trying to find a way to be as inclusive as possible to lots of different types of creators, be able to tell different types of stories and to sort of bring the community together because ultimately that's what Bionic exists to do, which is to give creators a platform to help them to sort of move their career forward. And what better way to do that than getting your work shown at the IMAX, right? Exactly. Exactly. And I think it's really really good that you stress that it only needs to be a certain part of the entry because actually some of the most interesting

1:11:23 X-P prize entries were exactly that you know they took the brief very loosely and had a very left field entry like one of them even anthropomorphized a person as a fusion reactor you know so they they basically gave it like a real life character as the future technology which had to be included in as part of the brief. So, I really like those interpretations which are much looser on the brief sometimes. So, I think that's, you know, how can you get a Formula E car into a 60-cond thing with the requirements and make it, you know, really left field is a great way to think about an entry for something like this as well. Yeah, don't get me wrong. If people if people want to make a, you know, a car, you know, more slightly more car film and make it heavily stylized, then, you know,

1:12:08 absolutely they can they can do that. I'm just saying that they have options available to them. I know the most crucial point of all, Chris, I almost forgot to mention is the closing date is September the 26th. Ah, yes. And that is a little bit of a tight window. Um, but we were a little bit hamstrung with the the dates when the IMAX was available. Uh, it's not the easiest place to book and obviously judge it and get the get the upscaling done. So there is a little bit of a tight window, but you still got a good three weeks to make a one minute film. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's quite reasonable as well, even with people, you know, um I think now we're coming into September, especially a lot of people from August, especially parents and stuff, you know, getting back to work in September. So they'll have the floodgates open to be able to take on things like this. and a really cool prize.

1:12:57 You know, like I say, I think it's very unique to be involved in something like this with such unique prize and it's so good that it's global entries. By the way, if you wanted to say for the next one, Alex, um the person who won at the Bionic Awards uh with Costa Verde, Leo Canon, you remember? Um, I saw that he posted a very recent thing which, uh, I haven't seen him that often in my feed, so I always get super excited every time I see a piece from him. And I have actually no idea. I haven't watched this piece yet. So, all through Have you seen it yet? Have you seen his most recent post? I haven't, but I'm really intrigued to see it because I'm thinking of his work and you know when we were judging last year's Bionic and you know you can just imagine how many you know how many entries I'd sat through and watched and his it was just Costa Verde was just such

Léo Cannone's new piece

1:13:48 a breath of fresh air so different so unique so interesting and so much uh so much heart to it as well and I think that with AI films in particular we we can get so sidetracked by the sort of technical merits of it and making it look cinematic And sometimes what's missing from a lot of films is is that kind of humanity and that soul and that craft. And again, that's what we're looking for, not only in Bionic itself, but also in in the creator's challenge. But, you know, I think it's something that all AI creators should maybe take a minute to sort of reflect on is to think how much how much how much soul and humanity am I bringing to this, not just how good. And so, I'm super excited to see what this is. Yeah. Let's check it out. No, no.

1:14:58 No, for

1:15:45 you know fascinating, huh? Now, if you saw at the end there, he did allude to what exactly that piece was, but I'll give you a rundown. So, basically, he is called Bruno's Sarah. He's a young lad and he decided to spend his summer making a film about his extraordinary grandmother and that was day one essentially of him starting to film his grandmother. But yeah, talking about the heart and soul of things, Alex, it's just so this like handheld camera sort of like thing that he has going on about making things seem so real, the relationships and the interactions.

1:16:35 I thought Costa Verde stood up so well to the test of time because of this handheld camera movement thing that he did. And it turns out that he used Miniax for a lot of that, believe it or not. Um, in fact, nearly all of it. Um, this this handheld camera thing he he recognized as being very strong through that model. And so that's why it held up so well over time and was, you know, it's years old now and yet still looks kind of recent in terms of like how it was made and stuff. So fascinating that he's continuing this sort of feeling in his videos like going forward like this. Oh, I love it. I I love the the way that in the in the original film there was it was like hunting for focus and things like that and gave it that kind of real camcorder sort of uh feel lowfi feel.

1:17:22 Exactly. And you know really just those little technical glitchy kind of things that you you really just wouldn't expect to see uh in in AI in eye camera work. I'm fascinated of, you know, how much of that there is. But also, I love the whole premise of like found photography performing the basis of of Hidden Memories. Yeah. And um in fact actually because we're sort of just finalizing the the categories for Bionic season 2 and we're you know we're 99% there with the categories but one of the ones that we're kind of thinking about is having something for um found footage or an incomplete film almost might get like a you know one minute of a film made and then challenge everybody else to finish it or found footage or something

What's coming for Bionic season two?

1:18:07 like that. Ah, so cool. You know, curious to see what you guys think of those ideas because, you know, we're we we we talk about this stuff all the time and uh we just think it would be interesting to just do something a little bit quirky. [snorts] I love that idea. What do you think to that, Mary? I absolutely adore it. I I'm looking forward to it. When you were speaking about how they'd have to include about four seconds of this vehicle in their thing, I immediately thought of black light and throwing stunt man stew in there. Totally seeing what he would go on. just un just unhinged with it. Bring him down to the water park. All of it. I will send you after this, Alex. Actually, one of the best videos I've ever seen was one of these types of videos where it was the same world that was being used, but they gave it to a hundred different uh VFX artists. Um, and then they basically stitched together the one minute loops that they created of the different envir.

1:18:59 It was really I I love it honestly. I think it's so much could be done there creatively and and uniquely again like you know getting all uh like black light as you say Mary it would be such a great character person to just add you know you'd want him to like be one of the opening you know sort of opening five and then the chaos after that would just be [laughter] even if you're a normal creator inheriting what black light gives you you're going to have to deal with this somehow to work with this world yeah it could be really really fun. I love that. It's uh God, you're having some great ideas about this. Uh it's really really smart. Really smart. Listen, I think the thing is when you run when you run your own festival,

1:19:46 you've got the latitude to sort of to be a bit experimental and do what you want. I mean, many of the things that we would do that we did in the first season of Bionic were at the time a bit unusual in the first instance. Sort of the idea of having a festival where the creators are at the center of it and we put them on stage rather than the sponsors and we get them to talk about their work, you know, no one and also just physically bringing everybody together for a physical festival. Yeah. Because again, people were like, are you why why bother doing that when you could just announce it online? And we were like, no, because it's about community. It's about bringing people together. It's about not just the work itself, but giving them the opportunity to find relationships and make and meet people themselves. And these are all integral parts of helping to foster and develop people's careers and it's something that people you know don't get enough of.

1:20:34 So we were very clear right from the beginning that that was that the DNA of what Bionic was about and we just want to keep uh and now obviously a lot of festivals do that which is you know great uh but we just want to keep pushing the envelope and just being bringing a slightly experimental and forwardinking attitude to it. Certainly if anybody watching or you know has got ideas or a category idea or something that they would love to include something would like reach out to me. Uh we're always open to suggestions from the community. We reply to every message and you know we we'd love to hear from you because you know this is your community. Exactly. It's so great um that you take feedback like that and anybody that was in that room, you know, like you know how special that was to be in that room and have people

1:21:20 all around the world there and we see each other so much now, Alex, you know, like at various other events, the same sorts of faces showing up and it's so good that so many of us met on that night as well to go forward from that night and and people talk about it. So, you know, it was such a great get together. I can't wait. I can't wait. Well, we'll be seeing you tomorrow night for starters. Right. I know. [laughter] We have a bionic event in central London in Soho. If if any I don't know how many people watching are are based in London, but there's still it's a free event. There's there's still a few tickets left if anyone is uh wanting to come and join us in Soho for to uh we have three fantastic creators speaking. We have Toby Haidider, Chris, and Selma Abu. Selma. Yes. You know, they'll be talking about everything from marketing and advertising through to how to make the perfect battle scene.

1:22:13 Exactly. I love Toby and we had him on the show as well and Salma I see everywhere. And Kareem and Salma are great friends. You know, it's crazy how interconnected this sort of like uh community has become now. It's so awesome. I heard from McKenna as well the other day who I hadn't heard from in a while. And um yeah, there's exciting stuff going on there. We've got Diane coming on to the show as well in the next coming weeks and everyone's finally doing stuff, you know, at a level which we always knew it was going to be happening. But London has really taken the mantle which I'm really excited about that, you know, especially with like the difficulties to get into Europe uh like venues and stuff like airports and going to America so frequently and stuff. I'm just so happy that so much more is happening in London and that people are flying from all over Europe now to take London as seriously as as as as

1:23:05 everything else which is great. Yes. Are you familiar with IA's work, Mary? Sorry, what's that? Are you familiar with IA's work? A little bit. A little bit. He's fantastic. He he double Bionic winner. He won two out of the 11 Bionic Awards last year. He's great. What we love about him particularly is like is because he just brings a certain like London voice to his work which is just so much of AI work in particular is quite international or American leaning and we just love the fact that he was kind of bringing that kind of London vibe to it. And obviously you know Diane uh you know bionic judge um yeah she is amazing. Uh when we first spoke to Diane, so so talented but yet so humble like she got in touch and was like we

1:23:52 were just chatting to her as a creator and she was like oh you know by the way guys I'm giving a TED talk in a couple of weeks [laughter] about the future of creativity and AI and we were like you know what Diane you can be a judge because you know your skills are just like otherworldly and you're just like an incredible communicator and she's just such a lovely human being and she was a DJ. I mean, how many more bonus points do you need here? Like, it's like checking the list of things that you could be in terms of transferable skill. Yeah, exactly. And I can't believe it's taken us this long to get her on a on the guest creator series. I think it's just because she's been doing so many workshops as well. And, you know, every time I ask, I'm like, "Oh, you're somewhere else." And she sent me a photo of her doing a workshop

1:24:38 somewhere. And I'm like, "Oh my god, you just nonstop." Yeah. Anyway, The next piece I wanted to show, if you want to stay around for this piece as well, Alex, it's um a submitted to us piece. I've actually asked them to submit it to Bionic based on, you know, this person keeps submitting to us. Uh really, really like the work. Uh their YouTube handle is Hayden, HY D I N. And the piece is called Ironwood 1838. Um we know that it was made with Seance 2.5. So yeah, it's a very recent piece. To compare that to other pieces, um there's a premise for it as well, but actually I'm just going to watch this one because it's one of those ones where it's 6 minutes long and you've really got to get into the story.

IRONWOOD 1838, made with Seedance 2.5

1:25:24 It's by Dinda Prejo is the individual behind Hayden and Hayden sort of the handle. So let's check it out.

1:26:11 [music] Get away from it. We are only measuring. [music] Nobody has to be here for this. [screaming] Please, [music] not like this. Come with me and he will explain it himself. One walk, that is all. Go home. Tell no one [music] yet.

1:27:11 Tell him it is already signed. He says the trees are counted now. He says it is done. Take what you have marked. Do not touchu. He asked for one tree, the old one at the center. He says it is not yours to take. They cut one tree. Tomorrow they cut a 100. And the day after they send a 100 more men.

1:28:00 Sit down. Who's there? Stop.

1:28:53 Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. [screaming]

1:30:06 [music] Stay. Guard them. Wait, let them come to us.

1:30:55 Oh, RUN. [screaming] They were in the trees. All of them. They came down on us. Not the trees, the houses. Yeah,

1:32:19 [screaming] Whoa. So, one thing I noticed straight away, and not many people notice this, but maybe I just watched a lot of Sea Dance 2.0 0 videos, but when it's 2.5, they just look a lot less plasticy plasticky. You know, the they look and feel more real, the characters. And um what's your feeling on that, Mary? Does can you tell the jump between two and 2.5 in the show? You watch the show so often. Before I would watch hands and eyes and lip movement. Now I'm watching hairs and textures and fadeaways. So for this one, I think it had a little bit different hue to it, so it felt a little bit more natural.

1:33:05 But um yeah, the only thing that I found a little bit unplausible is that he didn't he hit the tree at the beginning when well he can hit a person no problem. So I guess maybe he needs to have a dead baby mama to get somebody going to get some good [laughter] or something. But he he I love the continuity issues. You are so Andrew. It's brilliant. [laughter] It's brilliant. He would laugh so much if he heard that because I bet he would have noticed the same sort of continuity issues. But isn't it wild that we're just watching this now going like okay this is the sort of standard you know so the storytelling within this like world building is okay you know if you're going for photo realism we know it's achievable now we know things don't need to look plasticky

1:33:51 if they do then really you're using substandard tools at this point you know um or you don't know the workflows in order to achieve it or something but try to see what other people are doing out there and see how real it looks and you know what character sheets they're using, what workflows they're using exactly in order to achieve this if photo realism is your aim. Obviously, you don't need to do that. You could go in any any style and I think animation is a lot more forgiving truthfully um than photo realism still even with Cance 2.5. But it is kind of shocking when you're just seeing users like him who hasn't got a large YouTube channel. He's got less than 10,000 subs still making stuff like that and just putting it out there on his YouTube page and you know hopefully submitting it to some awards and stuff

1:34:37 if it's a world that's popular but isn't that crazy Alex that just that is the level since last Bionic it's kind of wild to see that that jumped in less than a year it feels like mad I think sometimes you have to look back to look forwards as well like uh you know even the the season one of Bionic there was you know not not many of the films could even do dialogue really there was a lot of voice over you know um there was there was a lot of question as to whether it would ever be enough photo sign you know photo realism totally um and you know people were using all sorts of narrative tricks to sort of overcome the sort of inability to do sort of uh [clears throat] direct dialogue and now we sort of just take it for granted that you can you can you can do some of this stuff.

Has storytelling kept pace with the tech?

1:35:22 So it definitely it's it's been a hugely uh almost exponential growth in terms of technical capabilities. The question really is whether as I said before whether people's sort of storytelling craft has kind of kept pace with the sort of technical advances that are available to them. Well, that's why I said earlier on in the show like all of the new people that are with a storytelling background to get on boarded quickly. It's so good that people like Henry and others are showcasing exactly how to do so, you know, so that they can get up to scratch quickly and get it, you know, because then it is really just about the AI technical capabilities because the storytelling is there for a lot of those ones and these and the other way around is true too. A lot of people are very apt with AI tools that don't have the storytelling background that need to go the reverse

1:36:13 way and start just learning stories and watching and reading books and you know learning you know yeah I know I'm getting back into it with my son thank god but also just watching classic films as well watch a lot of classic films because a lot of the you know the the the sort of fundaments of uh visual storytelling are available to you everywhere. You know, just to because I do think though that it's critical when you're making, you know, any kind of film to sort of really to sort of to to ask challenge yourself throughout the whole making of it all the way through is is is, you know, the what storytelling craft we're bringing to all of this. And it's something that we're very keen on with Bionic as well is in fact we're actually talking about

1:37:00 at Bionic School which will be the uh just running just prior to the next main creator summit actually have bringing together teams of uh film of screenwriters who have no AI skills with AI creators and trying to sort of create hybrid teams to try and you know to sort of share those skills and because and bring them into people's world uh world building because they're so critical. But just to talk about this piece of piece of work in particular, which I really enjoyed by the way. Um I I think it was really an interesting mixture of of different things. Even though it was obviously a very coherent world, I felt that there were it had different uh tones to it. So I really enjoyed the beginning, the subtlety, especially

1:37:47 with the soundtrack. I thought that real subtlety to the depth of the soundtrack and and and the um even small things like the way that that they were the the they were shaving the wood with that kind of um implement at the beginning. I forget what it was called felt very coherent and realistic. I think where it maybe felt like it maybe lost its way a little bit was when it kind of went um hard rather than soft and you got into the sort of action sequences. Some of those the physics in particular didn't feel completely convincing when the guys jumped in from the trenches. It was just it didn't completely convince me that they were kind of real people landing. It was just a bit too too um quite sure what the word is. Just drop it in like boom, I'm there. I'm here to fight you.

1:38:36 Yeah. So little bit of subtlety missing. Exact. I think that's exactly right. you know, I felt a little bit uh and and it was particularly uh noticeable because of how convincingly um subtle the intro had been. Yes, you're right. We were drawn into it by the subtlety of the beginning, weren't we? So, we were expecting it throughout and it was kind of a shock to the system when the sort of more action sequence sequences happened. It drew attention to that. Absolutely. Oh, great. Alex, you need to come back onto the show for this just regularly, mate. when you're coming with this level of like great feedback for the creators. This guy has been submitting to us for a long time now and I've been seeing his improvements week to week to week to week to week and it's really fascinating to see it, you know, when someone is just a full-time YouTuber with a world making thing making daily if not like weekly videos

1:39:25 to see this like skill rise and see how he's approaching it. It's fascinating. The next one I'm going to showcase if you want to stick around for this one too is um a great suggestion from Marco and it's probably one of the most uh awesome sort of suggestion. I haven't watched this one so I've just watching the opening sequences and it looks awesome from that alone and all I know is that it's by um Absurd YC52 F25 is the handle and it's called Safos Odyssey. So, um, I'm going to showcase this one in a different sort of way because it's a slightly bigger file and hopefully it takes over the screen. Let's check it out.

SAPPHO'S ODYSSEY: history from a statue's point of view

1:41:04 Heat. Heat. [screaming] [cheering] [screaming] Heat. [music] Heat. Heat. Heat.

1:42:46 A lot Oh my god. [cheering] Heat. Heat.

1:44:04 [music] Make a mill. I got Juliet Maru metros music. Go for

1:44:59 statue. Foreign. [music] [music] I'm sure you compound.

1:45:50 To Fabio. Wait, I'm coming. Those Julian [screaming] is the joy.

1:46:57 [music] Foreign

1:48:02 What a journey, huh? That was so pretty. Oh my goodness, mate. That was Thank you so much to Marco who's going to be a future creator. Uh a shout out for suggestion on that piece. Beautiful. I was trying to challenge myself on history. I was like that was the French Revolution. Okay. Where where else was this that I recognized as a historical event that happened, you know, like and so much of it was like a time lapse from ancient times to modern day. It was incredible, wasn't it? Wow. I I love that the time didn't destroy the cult the sculpture itself, you know, it just add layers to it. I love the transitions, too. You know, obviously that like breaking the fourth wall as well, like witnessing people's weddings and, you know, all of this

1:48:52 random awesomeness that's so well thought out from the creator. Truly a really great storytelling. And the music was like brilliant. I think someone said it was very cubricesque, you know, like uh the concept and I agree with that too. What are your thoughts, Alex? I just wish my mom was here because she's written four novels about the [clears throat] French history and Louis the 14th and 15th and Marian Twinet. So, she'd have plenty to say about this. But, um the the uh as a film, I I enjoyed it. I I thought uh I agree with you that it's a it's an interesting take on storytelling to sort of you know to see it you know through the lens of their statues and to sort of I often think about that actually when I'm in museums about or or you know I even think about with really old trees

1:49:47 as well about the what their perspective is on on on on the events that unfold around them. Maybe that's Yeah, but you do. It's a really cool um way to kind of tell a story over time. Totally. I love the symmetry at the end where they, you know, they were initially together being constructed, made the muse, everybody's getting gay for each other, and then at the end there's a symmetry moment where they come back. And I was kind I was kind of hoping there'd be some sort of unnatural moment where the the two Marvel stes would, you know, reach out to one another like how they were in the initial beginning. But yeah, I'm okay with the stillness. That would be a big boxing, you know. [laughter] Yeah, exactly. Totally.

1:50:33 I actually really agree with what Lara said. I think the music carried this with a no voice over because you were watching so intently the visuals of and because it was the fourth wall sort of thing. you had to really focus like you know it was as though a married couple were having a private conversation that no statue was being witnessed to you know so you had to really like focus on that you know so I agree the no voiceover choice was very very key to that one being so impactful to me uh because the visuals therefore took over so much of what was going on alongside the music to carry it through and the editing and the pacing of it all was just brilliant. Uh some of the transitions when it cut to black you just think oh it's ended now and then it's like no it's just a long period of history that's gone and then you're into the next moment

1:51:22 you know it felt like it continually with videos like that you might think oh could it have been shorter to tell the same story but actually no because they're really covering parts of the major history they wanted to with those cuts transitions so it's very clever sort of like storytelling breaking there as well uh yeah really really liked it. Really, really like that piece. Thank you, Marco, again for that suggestion. My god. We've got two options to close out the show because I know we're only 5 minutes away from ending. Actually, you stayed for the whole extra hour, Alex. I didn't mean to stay this long. You've kind of drawn me into your web. Yay. [laughter] Well, we have we still have and I apologize to others have submitted to us a long backlog of pieces from the last couple of weeks

1:52:09 where we've been focused on the X-P prize um of stuff to show in future episodes that we haven't got around to today. Uh but you know hasten to be please still send it to through to us. We have a new website for all of this now called the ailiveshow.com. So you can l just go there you'll see the submit links future episodes and all of that jazz as well. Two other things I wanted to mention. Um, I'm going to be at Shake Film Festival very soon, uh, which is really excited to do this one. It's at the birthplace of cinema, which is so cool. Um, it's so I will send more details around about this on the newsletter. So, make sure you sign up to the newsletter. I'll be moderating a project there which is called the hundred

Shake Film Festival and a hundred love letters to cinema

1:52:55 uh, love letters to cinema. and I'm going to be interviewing a hundred directors in the birthplace of cinema. Um, which is really, really, really cool to be invited to that. Thank you so much to Jeremy for that. Obviously, we have Cavan the Kid as well tomorrow, which is like amazing and he's crushing it. His like whole YouTube saga is something to be studied for real. 40 million views in 11 episodes now the Chronicles of Bone series has got which is truly monumental and it's probably the most like viable IP asset that I've noticed as well. Um uh so I can't wait to pick out the you know episode five creation how he did it. We know that he does it largely on his own.

1:53:41 This one's the reunion. So get your episode uh get your questions ready for tomorrow for Cavan as well. And um yeah, just so much news happening at the moment. It's crazy. Andrew and Paul are away. Andrew got a last minute booking in the UK, it turns out. So he's flying back tonight and will be with us tomorrow for Cavan's episode. But that's why Mary stepped in last minute today, which was I was so thankful for. And then all of your announcements too, Alex. It's just like everything is coming. I thought August and September was going to be quiet this year. [laughter] I was I was so wrong, mate. I was so wrong. In a good way. In a good way. Exactly. And that's why I'm so happy to hear that it's you lots of stuff happening in the UK as well specifically compared to last year. A lot of it was stateside or, you know, wider in Europe and specific things.

1:54:30 And now it's like no, so much is happening here as well. And uh really excited to see it. This next and last project I want to show to you is just stylewise one of the nicest things that I've seen in a while. It kind of reminds me of like those ' 90s cartoon. If you ever play sort of Metal Gear Solid, the early animations and sketching from the Japanese artist and illustrator there. Um, I'm not going to say anything more about this piece. I'll just show it to you style-wise, get your thoughts and feelings on it as we close out the show, and then give the credits to the creator afterwards. Let's check it out. Heat. Heat. [music]

A Mortal Kombat original AI film

1:55:19 [music] [music] Heat. [music] Heat. [music] [music] [music]

1:56:12 Okay. Hey. My heart on fire [groaning] already [music] My breath

1:56:59 my fight to survive. [music] [cheering] Ever thought about movies? [music] [music]

1:57:44 [music] Johnny, as I said, Mary didn't actually know that um Mortal Kombat was going to be the last video that I shared. [laughter] So happy. I was about to go off about Street Fighter there for a minute. I was wrong. I was going to say so that was uh created by Zavian Cross and just said a Mortal Kombat original AI film. So, you know, we're seeing this like fan film stuff go to another level and and it's an interesting barrier that Andrew talks about, you know, week on week. You see it, Mary, don't you? where it's like when you're taking an IP that's so loved like that or like the Pokemon world or the World of Warcraft world or

Fan films, IP, and protecting your own

1:58:38 any of these worlds, it's like you can do a great original storytelling within that and it be very attractive to outside people. You know, that's the real skill of it is can you get people not already invested in this world to be interested in your interpretation of this world. Um, but it also draws some weird gray lines as to where you can publish it and how it gets published and uh all of this other stuff. Uh, but I find it fascinating that we're in this time where a style like that which is so cool can be taken up with a thing like this. H how do you categorize this Alex? I mean how do you do it? It's it's a tough one isn't it? I mean there's there's several points in there. You know, there's the style is one is is is one thing like visual style and storytelling style, but obviously if we're talking

1:59:28 about the sort of genre of fanfiction and sort of bit the freedom to sort of experiment with IP, uh that's another sort of question entirely. Yeah, it's tough. Um how long have you got? [laughter] I know it's when we ask Cavan this and you know he obviously plays with out of copyright characters which makes sense because then there is no problem you know like having ones and and and Harry's the same with HP Lovecraft and many others do the same but you know when it comes to like recent IPs like Street Fighter Pokemon and stuff like this they're obviously very popular but they're well within copyright you know and yeah that's where it starts to get like um especially Nintendo and stuff, they really don't like this stuff, you know, and they will come heavily with lawyers and stuff, but others seem to be more embracing of it.

2:00:20 Uh, so it's it's a really strange boat out there with what you can and can't do and and create. It's uh I love seeing it. I mean, you know, it it is it is tricky to sort of navigate that world and to sort of, you know, to to allow people the freedom to experiment but not sort of infringe at the same time and also to protect their own work as well. So, yes, this is the thing I think often gets overlooked in this debate is like if you're a creator and you've you've created um you know, Cavan's work is a great example. He's created this fantastic IP of his own universe, you want to be able to protect that yourself and make sure that no one else is infringing on that. So, it's not just a one-way street here. Totally. So, uh, totally. And I think that goes back to what we were saying earlier about just documenting everything, doesn't it?

2:01:06 Like, uh, we will have to do an episode on that about everyone now has to document everything in order to get full protection over that if that you want to prove in court that you had a lot of human effort made into all of this. Henry showcased a lot of that to us. It was quite uh, eye opening, actually. Um, and you're having conversations with Henry, too. It's a small world, isn't it? It's so Henry is is also going to be one of the judges of um the um the Formula E Creators Challenge. So, uh Brilliant. Another bombshell announcement for you there, Chris. It's all special episodes with Mary joining us last minute. Thank you so much, Mary. You're the best. Um and all of you regulars that have been watching us like week to week.

Henry Daubrez joins the Formula E judges

2:01:52 Thank you so much. We've seen Megan and others join throughout the show and Jimmy and others. So they've had to drop off obviously. Um but yeah, we're live again tomorrow guys with Cavan as I say and then I'm on Thursday. I'm with you, Alex, down in London, which is super exciting. And then again next week, we'll have the regular show on Tuesday. And I think we've got a special episode coming up with Marco, which I'll announce later on in the week. But any uh any closing stuff from you guys or, you know, thank you so much otherwise for being on the show. Yeah, I couldn't finish without reminding people that the entry URL for the contest is genforchallenge.com and you've got till the September the 26th to get your entry in and we will see you at the IMAX hopefully.

2:02:41 Yes. How exciting is that? [laughter] Did we have one more to close out with, Chris, or did I miss the queue on that one? Um, no. I actually probably did have another one, but I haven't loaded it up in time. So, the list that I've I had Iron Heaven. Yeah. Which was actually uh it's a it's a longer one. It's like a seven minute one. So, we'll leave that till next week, I think. But um that one was by Sword Speed. And thanks again for submitting to us all you guys. Really appreciate it. It's all in one central space now. Like I say, genchallenge.com on the website here is where to go and find out all the details and the ailive.com is our new site for where to submit to the show for future weeks. And yeah, you guys are the best. We'll see you all again.

2:03:28 We'll see you again in the future. Oh, the shades are coming on. [laughter] Oh, I love it. I wasn't kidding when I sent you that message last night. [laughter] I love it. You went to the effort to get them on Facebook. There we go. And here was me. You were setting me up to show a great music video and you were going to put the swag on and I'd ruined it. What am I doing? Huh? I feel underdressed, guys. [laughter] You know, the funny the funny bit of lore to the show here, Alex, is that um I didn't know it, but Andrew basically had a pair of shades that we played a banging music video, didn't we, Mary, a few weeks ago, and he just appeared back in the studio with them on with no prior warning.

Mary's shades

2:04:14 And so, [laughter] Mary's gone out and purchased herself a pair just in it. Oh, I love that's got to be part of this show now. Yeah, I'm going to start getting these red glasses to [laughter] people that have been on the show as my takeaway. You should you should you should get you should you should carry them with you everywhere and just give them to people that have been on the show or that you know been at events with you. It's your thing, you know. I think it's I think it's now done. I think I just need to find a uh yeah, I need to find a provider to get these at scale. And [laughter] uh yeah, it's uh it's going to be it's going to be a hell of a end of the year, I tell you. We've seen like seven feature films, Alex, confirmed um from various people. Uh which is very very exciting. Uh I think all seven have been previous guests on the show as well.

2:05:03 So we're going to try and wrap them up in their media tour. We know obviously this is going to be big big stuff you know and last time Zach was on the podcast he was literally on uh you know all of the giant USA news outlets right after in the same day as well. So very thankful to have got him on that media tour. And and this next one I believe you know what the most fascinating part that I I think I told you this in in private WhatsApp but he um in in his landing page that he built where he asked for postcodes of people that are interested to watch the the premiere. He was actually told that London was the most popular area um in which is fascinating. and now he's going to be doing like a London stage to this tour and that's so cool to see obviously

2:05:51 just having London accents I thought you know it could he's from the states so you could imagine him to having a big audience there and stuff so even though he's living in Sweden now again where it's like Europe covered there a bit uh but fascinating well we love uh Zach's work I mean obviously another Bionic winner um yeah from last year for uh best sound I believe And yes, you know, incredible, incredible work. Wood nuts. We we absolutely loved it. Came very very close to to to winning the main prize as well. It hadn't been for Costa Verde. Who knows what might have happened, but that one that I'm so glad we saw Leo this week. It's so weird that we you know, it has been so many bio. I haven't set this up, guys.

2:06:40 I'm for real. I haven't set this up. It just so happens that they are so good. So prolific and everything like that. But it's crazy to see this coming back now, you know, like these guys coming back into the fray with the new takes on the new tools and stuff like that. It's so good to see that. And yeah, I've heard from Zach that he's just been working nonstop on this feature film, you know, like seven days a week. I'd love to love to see it. I'd love to love to um get love to get Zach along to to a bionic event. Let's do let's make it happen. I know. Let's make it happen, guys. Right, I'm going to end the stream there. I can't believe I got the merry sunglasses uh appearance at the end. [laughter] The only thing we were missing was the ice cream van. And that would have made the whole law of the show like, you know,

2:07:27 full rounded. But yeah, he doesn't like Tuesdays. He loves Mondays and Wednesdays. It doesn't matter the weather, Mary. Trust me, he's come when it's raining. He comes often when it's raining. It's just that Tuesdays, for some reason, he skips a bit. So yeah, [laughter] he must be seeing his kids on a Tuesday or something. Right, I'm going to end the show there. Cheers, guys. Cheers, guys.